Giving of Shadow and King Dead Wolf-Deer : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:18 pm

A Breton scholar Louis D'Onus agrees to give his shadow. Stri'Ker, the Khajiit scholar, and a scholar named Mafafu travel to the High Rock to procure the antlers of the King Dead Wolf-Deer. Ainoryl gives information about the antlers, he says, "King Dead Wolf-Deer is one of the surviving monster-mer of the Wild Hunt that slew Borgas of Skyrim. He is thus one of the oldest creatures in Tamriel, and therefore no trifle. That he exists still to haunt High Rock thousands of years later speaks to the danger of retrieving his antler-crown."

Trial of Vivec

Could someone please elaborate on this passage:

1) What does it mean to give your shadow?
2) What is a monster-mer?
3) What/who is King Dead Wolf-Deer?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:52 pm

2) What is a monster-mer?
3) What/who is King Dead Wolf-Deer?

Bosmeri who went on Wild Hunt.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:32 pm

Bosmeri who went on Wild Hunt.

Yup. This is described in greater detail in http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/danceinfire.shtml. Basically, when the mer were first on Nirn, they didn't have any one single form. According to http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/clanmother.shtml, Azurah bound the proto-Khajiit to the Lunar Lattice. The http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Khajiit#Morphology. I think it was Yffre who bound the Bosmer? Not sure about the Aldmer, maybe they didn't suffer from lacking-shape.

EDIT: presumable, King Dead Wolf-Deer is a Bosmer who didn't want to be bound to a mer/humanoid form, or just wasn't bound to a form at all. That's why he's reportedly so old - he's from the beginnings of mer-on-Nirn.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:17 pm

Your shadow is all the parts of you except those that can be seen. A higher price than most realize. The falmer were skilled in these techniques, and some men fumbled with them early in the third era.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:06 am

Ah, thanks for the reference to A Dance in Fire. Reading it now

But what about the giving of ones shadow? Should I assume it is similar to giving one's soul?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:17 pm

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» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:10 am

1) What does it mean to give your shadow?

Exactly that. You give some one your shadow. He'll have two then, you'll have none.

The shadow is used to trap Azura. It's her domain, but not under her control.

A shadow leaves Vivec, snapping off him to wrap around the Daedric Prince, cracking the air as it stiffens.

Vivec: "With my Charges I put you down. By this Shadow, I call your neonymic forth, your chosen throne, sundown and sunrise, death and birth of shadow. You are bound to this place."

The falmer were skilled in these techniques.

Mmh?