Anything Wrong Here? : IV

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:18 pm

So I recently decided to reinstall Oblivion and, like everyone else, I installed a bunch of mods. It is pretty stable at the moment, but I am having one annoying problem, and it is that none of the bandits want to attack me. I can just walk up to them, or past them, but If I try to talk to them then they finally decide to attack me. The creatures don't do this, and everything else appears to be working just fine, except for those bandits. Any ideas on what could be causing this lack of aggression? I used BOSS on the list and I cleaned the SoT The Order of Nibenay and its Lost Spires patch as per BOSS instructions using the guide. Thanks in advances for help.
Here is my load-order

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Oblivion.esm
GTAesgaard_2.esm
TR_OoT_Main.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Cobl Main.esm
TamRes.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
BetterMusicSystem.esm
TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp
MOBS.esp
MOBS SI.esp
TamRes.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
New Oblivion Moons.esp
phinix-waterfix.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
CNRP Brumav02.esp
CNRP Chorrol.esp
CNRP FightersGuild.esp
CNRP DB.esp
CNRP Cheydinhal.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp
NBB.esp
VA_BetterGold.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
PTRoamingNPCs.esp
Choices and Consequences.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
Ancient Silver Armor.esp
Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp
CSR - Fine Iron.esp
Dread Knight Armor.esp
Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp
Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp
New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
ROHJ2.esp
Shadow Legion Armor.esp
tda_Armoury.esp
The Arsenal.esp
Fjotreids Armor v1.0.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul - Vanilla Armours.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul - Vanilla Weapons.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul - Realm of Amenophis.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul - Town Honour Guards.esp
Mart's Monster Mod.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp
TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp
Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp
CAL_Rebalance_Daedric_1.02.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
KnightlyArmory.esp
Ivellon.esp
[Calsar] BetterWhiteStallionLodge.esp
300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp
A Imperial Outpost - Fort Nova Varos .esp
A Sorceress Love 1_1.esp
Ancient Ruins - Ayleid Edition.esp
Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp
Better Benirus Manor.esp
Better Rosethorn Hall.esp
BladeOfTheHaunted.esp
BHC_Expanded.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed.esp
CDEP_FanaCeya.esp
CDEP-UnderpallCave.esp
Demonhunter.esp
Demonhunter Delayer.esp
delivery_job.esp
Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp
Extended Chorrol.esp
Extended Skingrad.esp
GoldenCrest.esp
GTAesgaard.esp
GTAesgaard_2.esp
GTAesgaard 1and2 Delayer.esp
Guards.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Let The People Drink Compatible Version - Merged - Lightless.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
IC Atmospheric Shops Mod.esp
JSRandomTasks.esp
Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Mag1cWind0w_The_Imperial_Water.esp
Northern Front.esp
Reaper's Bleaker's Way Village Revamp.esp
Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
BetterInns + NewHomeOwners.esp
BetterInns - ClocksOfCyrodiil PATCH.esp
BetterInns - COBL PATCH.esp
BetterInns - BHCExpanded PATCH.esp
The Crimson Queen.esp
TLC2.esp
TheForgottenShields.esp
TR_Stirk.esp
Valley_View_Estate.esp
Woodland Rangers.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp
Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
LostSpiresImpeREALFortsPatch2.esp
The Lost Spires_delayer.esp
SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp
LostSpires_TheOrderofNibenay_patch.esp
KORE- Blood Drinker Umbra.esp
Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
HoarfrostCastle.esp
AFK_Weye.esp
Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp
MannimarcoComplete.esp
Vergayun.esp
Faregyl.esp
Molapi.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
TheOrderofNibenay-Chorrol Hinterland patch.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
ValleyViewEstate-RiverEthe patch.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
BarbarianCamp.esp
Castle_Seaview.esp
CastleSeaview+LostCoast Patch.esp
Castle_Wolfspike.esp
Fort Akatosh Redux.esp
Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp
Legion Ranger Addon.esp
Better Abandoned House - Complete.esp
Finite Ammo.esp
Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp
SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
Werewolf-Legends.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp
Vector.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
kuerteeClothingMatters.esp
TRN One of the Gang.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
nGCD.esp
immersive_caves_manual.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Thieves Den.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.esp
Let There Be Darkness - UL Colovian Highlands.esp
Let There Be Darkness - UL Lost Coast.esp
Let There Be Darkness - UL Brena.esp
Let There Be Darkness - UL Blackwood Forest.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Hoarfrost Castle.esp
EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp
Better Looking Dark Elves.esp
Better Looking Redguards-Mergeable.esp
Better Looking Wood Elves COBL.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
Sonia.esp
Vance.esp
bgMagicEV.esp
bgMagicItemSigil.esp
bgMagicEVStartspells.esp
bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp
bgMagicAlchemy.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-creatures.esp
bgMagicEVShader.esp
bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp
Better Lava by elveon.esp
SnArrowEffects.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:00 am

Repost your load order via Wrye Bash instead: Right-click File header > List mods > Paste

Sounds like AI overload, in which case you should try one of the reduced spawn rates variants and perhaps also get rid of Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp. Also consider skipping other mods that add NPCs.

No idea how John's Leveled List Overhaul works with MMM either. Perhaps it doesn't need a patch for MMM.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:55 pm

Ok here is my load order from Wrye Bash. I switched to a reduced spawns esp and removed Additional Enemy NPC Vars. I hope it works

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  TR_OoT_Main.esm03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  TamRes.esm06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm09  BetterMusicSystem.esm0A  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp0B  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0F  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]10  MOBS.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]11  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]12  TamRes.esp13  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]14  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]15  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]16  New Oblivion Moons.esp17  Immersive Interiors.esp++  phinix-waterfix.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp18  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp19  WindowLightingSystem.esp1A  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1B  CNRP Brumav02.esp  [Version 0.2]1C  CNRP Chorrol.esp  [Version 1.1]1D  CNRP FightersGuild.esp  [Version 1.0]1E  CNRP DB.esp  [Version 1.0]1F  CNRP Cheydinhal.esp  [Version 1.0]20  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp21  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]22  NBB.esp++  VA_BetterGold.esp23  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.2]24  PTRoamingNPCs.esp25  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]26  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.5.3]27  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]28  DLCHorseArmor.esp29  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp  [Version 0.90]2A  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]2B  DLCOrrery.esp2C  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]2D  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]2E  DLCVileLair.esp2F  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]30  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp31  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]32  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]33  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]34  Book Jackets DLC.esp35  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp36  Ancient Silver Armor.esp37  Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp++  CSR - Fine Iron.esp38  Dread Knight Armor.esp39  Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp3A  Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp3B  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp3C  ROHJ2.esp  [Version 2.0]3D  Shadow Legion Armor.esp  [Version NQ-1.0]3E  tda_Armoury.esp3F  The Arsenal.esp40  Fjotreids Armor v1.0.esp41  DLCThievesDen.esp42  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]43  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]44  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]45  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]46  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]47  John's Leveled List Overhaul.esp++  John's Leveled List Overhaul - Vanilla Armours.esp48  John's Leveled List Overhaul - Vanilla Weapons.esp49  John's Leveled List Overhaul - Realm of Amenophis.esp++  John's Leveled List Overhaul - Town Honour Guards.esp4A  Mart's Monster Mod.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4D  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]50  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]51  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]52  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]53  CAL_Rebalance_Daedric_1.02.esp54  TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]55  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]56  TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp  [Version 1.39c]57  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]58  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp59  KnightlyArmory.esp5A  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]5B  [Calsar] BetterWhiteStallionLodge.esp5C  300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp5D  A Imperial Outpost - Fort Nova Varos .esp5E  A Sorceress Love 1_1.esp5F  Ancient Ruins - Ayleid Edition.esp60  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp61  Better Benirus Manor.esp62  Better Rosethorn Hall.esp63  BladeOfTheHaunted.esp  [Version 2.0]64  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]65  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.5]66  CDEP_FanaCeya.esp67  CDEP-UnderpallCave.esp68  Demonhunter.esp++  Demonhunter Delayer.esp  [Version 1.0]69  delivery_job.esp  [Version 1.1]6A  Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp6B  Extended Chorrol.esp6C  Extended Skingrad.esp6D  GoldenCrest.esp6E  GTAesgaard.esp6F  GTAesgaard_2.esp++  GTAesgaard 1and2 Delayer.esp  [Version 3.0]70  Guards.esp71  ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Let The People Drink Compatible Version - Merged - Lightless.esp72  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp73  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp74  IC Atmospheric Shops Mod.esp75  JSRandomTasks.esp  [Version 1.1a]76  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp77  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp78  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp79  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]7A  Mag1cWind0w_The_Imperial_Water.esp7B  Northern Front.esp7C  Reaper's Bleaker's Way Village Revamp.esp7D  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp7E  BetterInns + NewHomeOwners.esp  [Version 1.2]7F  BetterInns - ClocksOfCyrodiil PATCH.esp80  BetterInns - COBL PATCH.esp81  BetterInns - BHCExpanded PATCH.esp82  The Crimson Queen.esp  [Version 2.0]83  TLC2.esp84  TheForgottenShields.esp85  TR_Stirk.esp86  Valley_View_Estate.esp87  Woodland Rangers.esp  [Version 1.5.2]88  DLCFrostcrag.esp89  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]8A  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]8B  Knights.esp8C  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]8D  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]8E  Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 2.0]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]8F  The Lost Spires.esp90  LostSpiresImpeREALFortsPatch2.esp91  The Lost Spires_delayer.esp  [Version 1.1]92  SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp93  LostSpires_TheOrderofNibenay_patch.esp94  KORE- Blood Drinker Umbra.esp95  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp96  HoarfrostCastle.esp97  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.1.COBL]98  Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]99  MannimarcoComplete.esp9A  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.5]9B  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]9C  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0]9D  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]9E  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp9F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]A0  xulTheHeath.espA1  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.espA2  XulEntiusGorge.espA3  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]A4  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]A5  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]A6  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]A7  TheOrderofNibenay-Chorrol Hinterland patch.espA8  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]A9  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]AA  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]AB  HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.espAC  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]AD  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]AE  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]AF  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]B0  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]B1  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]B2  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.espB3  xulPantherRiver.espB4  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]B5  ValleyViewEstate-RiverEthe patch.esp  [Version 1.1.1]B6  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]B7  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]B8  RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 1.3.3]B9  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]BA  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]BB  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.espBC  DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.espBD  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]BE  xulSkingradOutskirts.espBF  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]C0  BarbarianCamp.espC1  Castle_Seaview.espC2  CastleSeaview+LostCoast Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]C3  Castle_Wolfspike.espC4  Fort Akatosh Redux.esp++  Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp  [Version 1.3]C5  Legion Ranger Addon.espC6  Better Abandoned House - Complete.espC7  Finite Ammo.espC8  Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp  [Version 1.0]C9  SkycaptainsBloodTime.espCA  Werewolf-Legends.espCB  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.espCC  StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.espCD  Vector.esp  [Version 0.3]CE  RenGuardOverhaul.espCF  kuerteeClothingMatters.espD0  TRN One of the Gang.espD1  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]D2  nGCD.espD3  immersive_caves_manual.espD4  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.espD5  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.espD6  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.espD7  Let There Be Darkness - Thieves Den.espD8  Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.espD9  Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.espDA  Let There Be Darkness - UL Colovian Highlands.espDB  Let There Be Darkness - UL Lost Coast.espDC  Let There Be Darkness - UL Brena.espDD  Let There Be Darkness - UL Blackwood Forest.espDE  Let There Be Darkness - Hoarfrost Castle.esp++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp++  Better Looking Dark Elves.esp++  Better Looking Redguards-Mergeable.espDF  Better Looking Wood Elves COBL.espE0  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.2]E1  Sonia.espE2  Vance.espE3  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E4  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]E5  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.espE6  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-creatures.espE7  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]++  Better Lava by elveon.espE8  SnArrowEffects.espE9  Shining Creatures.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.espEA  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]EB  Bashed Patch, 0.espEC  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:27 pm

Here it is from Wrye Bash. I'll try what you said and see if it fixes it.

Wait for a respawn, i.e. 4 days if on default, after having added the reduced spawn rate plugin and perhaps removed some other NPC adding plugins.

I'm not familiar with all your mods, but here are some notes, none of which should have anything to do with your current issue:

0A TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp - Import NPC Faces to the Bashed Patch and keep unchecked. Not completely necessary in your case I think - but it will save you two slots.
0B TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp - As above.

10 MOBS.esp [Version 1.2.2a] - Import Stats and keep unchecked.
11 MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a] - As above.

51 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f] - That's http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1105791-relzmartsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/page__view__findpost__p__16187398, right? Not using it myself, but it's important to have the latest update.

EE Shining Creatures.esp [Version 1.2] - BOSS should place this above the Bashed Patch.
EF Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.esp - As above. Can be merged and unchecked.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:59 pm

Well I did as you said and it works fine now. I also removed Diverse Waterlife just to make sure the problem doesn't pop up again. I'll also do those other things you mentioned. Thank you for the help