Consort of Vivec

Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:07 am

I've been searching through the Imperial Library trying to find info on Amelexia being the consort of Vivec - only vague references are made is there more to this like at what stage was she consort, early after Nerevar's untimely death?

Have searched this forum but can't find anything - though perhaps I'm not using the right keywords
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:27 pm

after Alamexia followed Vivec's plan which was made under Sotha Sol's advice, the three of them where all He/shes. the only people they had six with were... Molag Bal.
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Cheville Thompson
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:40 pm

Not sure about that. I thought one of the theories about why Nerevar was killed was because Vivec and Almalexia wanted to get together but Nerevar was in the way? So before Nerevar's death maybe... I know in 2920 she's referred to as being Vivec's lover.
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Madison Poo
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:35 pm

2090 is a historical fiction book. it's the real life equivalent of...Tyrant or some other completely fictional story that just uses real people's names.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:01 pm

2090 is a historical fiction book. it's the real life equivalent of...Tyrant or some other completely fictional story that just uses real people's names.


I wouldn't go THAT far.

I compare the book 2090 to the real world Chinese historical novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms. It's definitely based on real people, and real events in history, but with folklore and the author's own ideas mixed in so that it becomes hard to distinguish between what really happened and what's artistic license. I'm sure at least 70% of the events from 2090 actually happened, but the specifics such as character dialogue and little specifics are something the author couldn't have possibly known.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 3:05 am

Alma is everyone's consort :hubbahubba:
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Marie Maillos
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:38 pm

That must be why so many call her mother.

I'm sure at least 70% of the events from 2090 actually happened, but the specifics such as character dialogue and little specifics are something the author couldn't have possibly known.

You can add Vivec on horseback, to the thirty percent that didn't happen.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:28 pm

That must be why so many call her mother.


You can add Vivec on horseback, to the thirty percent that didn't happen.


It depends...was that part supposed to be on Vvardenfell or mainland Morrowind? Horses could probably survive on the mainland at the time, and there's no reason to assume Vivec wouldn't ride a horse if he had access to one. Why make things any harder on yourself than you have to? Even a God probably prefers to do things the easy way.


edit: The part I personally find hard to believe is Vivec wearing fine robes. He never wore much more than a loin cloth and a few pieces of random armor when I saw him. It seems like being a God in the Elder Scrolls mythos causes one to become progressively more naked as time goes by. The entire Tribunal were pretty much letting it all hang out when we meet them (even Sotha Sil, or especially so. He appeared to be completely naked. That wasn't armor, it was his metallic body!) and half the Daedric Princes are pretty much half naked.

Also, the description of him as a "tall Dunmer" made me laugh. He wasn't all that tall, and he didn't look much like a Dunmer.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:43 pm

It is in the realm of possability, but judging by the way he thinks (from the mind who brought us the Lessons), horseback would be far down on the list. Townway probably never read the 36 lessons. anyway...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:46 pm

It is in the realm of possability, but judging by the way he thinks (from the mind who brought us the Lessons), horseback would be far down on the list. Townway probably never read the 36 lessons. anyway...


You must remember the Lessons were written specifically for the Nerevarine, though, and the knowledge contained therein was only one aspect of Vivec's mind. He was both a warrior and a poet, and part of being a good warrior is recognizing and using all the available tools of warfare. I'm certain the Dunmer had cavalry of some sort, which probably mostly consisted of giant insects as seen in the Redguard comic but possibly a few horses on the mainland. Vivec, being a Commander In Chief of Dunmer forces was an important officer, and most high ranking generals from time period predating the use of automobiles usually moved about the battlefield on horseback in order to quickly give orders and to evade capture. Obviously a being of his extreme physical and mental powers wouldn't need to worry about capture so much but the ability to lead effectively meant he'd spend a lot of time teleporting, running extremely fast or going on horseback.

(It's kind of amusing to imagine him constantly teleporting or splitting himself into copies, come to think of it. Imagine a battlefield with eighteen Lord Vivecs commanding different platoons of dunmer soldiers.)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:51 pm

Alma is everyone's consort :hubbahubba:


Funny thing is, I know someone named Alma, and she is indeed, EVERYONE'S consort.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:11 pm

You must remember the Lessons were written specifically for the Nerevarine, though, and the knowledge contained therein was only one aspect of Vivec's mind.

You're right, but it doesn't matter who the lessons were written for. Anyone can get a copy and read for themselves, the hussy who told this story wouldn't ride a horse... :hehe:

That was only my impression.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:50 pm

It depends...was that part supposed to be on Vvardenfell or mainland Morrowind? Horses could probably survive on the mainland at the time, and there's no reason to assume Vivec wouldn't ride a horse if he had access to one. Why make things any harder on yourself than you have to? Even a God probably prefers to do things the easy way.


edit: The part I personally find hard to believe is Vivec wearing fine robes. He never wore much more than a loin cloth and a few pieces of random armor when I saw him. It seems like being a God in the Elder Scrolls mythos causes one to become progressively more naked as time goes by. The entire Tribunal were pretty much letting it all hang out when we meet them (even Sotha Sil, or especially so. He appeared to be completely naked. That wasn't armor, it was his metallic body!) and half the Daedric Princes are pretty much half naked.

Also, the description of him as a "tall Dunmer" made me laugh. He wasn't all that tall, and he didn't look much like a Dunmer.

Think Dr. Manhattan from watchmen. The more detatched from his former humanity/mortality he becomes, the less importance he gives to clothes and other human distinctions.

Personally, I like to think of it this way. Whether or not you buy into Vivec's claims that his mortal and divine beings were only the same for "one red moment," the mortal Vivec needed some motivation to kill his king and liege-lord, correct? So whether or not Vehk the God killed nerevar, whether or not he is the same person as vehk the Mortal, and whether or not their motivations are different, the best motive, both from a logical and rule of cool standpoint, is that Vehk the Mortal wanted Almalexia the Mortal in the sack and so they betrayed and killed Nerevar. The rest was just gravy.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:31 pm

Where does Seht tie into all this, then? He was obviously sleeping with Almalexia too, if not Vivec as well.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:17 pm

Where does Seht tie into all this, then? He was obviously sleeping with Almalexia too, if not Vivec as well.

Seht was sleeping with her where did you learn that? either way nerevar really made a poor choice in marrying her.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:08 pm

Seht was sleeping with her where did you learn that? either way nerevar really made a poor choice in marrying her.

Actually, he Mr. Manhattaned when he did Ayam, i.e. one of him was in her, and the other was working on his research
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