Apocalypse Theories : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:00 am

I was wondering if there are any apocalypse, end of the world theories floating around on Nirn. I remember reading about the gates of Oblivion opening and the daedra taking over Tamriel, was that only referring to the Oblivion Crisis? Or is there a more terrible event to come which includes all the Daedra, not just Dagon?

» Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:46 pm

Well, there is the (in)famous Fifth-Era Loveletter.

» Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:50 pm

Well, there is the (in)famous Fifth-Era Loveletter.

But Landfall happened already.

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:17 am

Can you remember what happened in the oblivion crisis?
Oblivion gates opened and daedra came out... that was exactly the prophecy...
also at the end of the crisis the barrier between the two reals was barred completely and I doubt the next MQ will involve daedra invading Tamriel....

» Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:41 pm

Can you remember what happened in the oblivion crisis?
Oblivion gates opened and daedra came out... that was exactly the prophecy...
also at the end of the crisis the barrier between the two reals was barred completely and I doubt the next MQ will involve daedra invading Tamriel....

But if that were true, how come you can enter the shivering isles?

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:48 am

But if that were true, how come you can enter the shivering isles?

daedra can't come in or out, only mortals. It IS ONLY an invitation

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:06 am

Well, there is the (in)famous Fifth-Era Loveletter.

Yes I had read that before, and I just read up on the thread about it. I think that may be what I had been looking for.

But then, the case is closed with the Oblivion Crisis, and it is ended? (I never played OB...).

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:05 am

Yes I had read that before, and I just read up on the thread about it. I think that may be what I had been looking for.

But then, the case is closed with the Oblivion Crisis, and it is ended? (I never played OB...).

Yep, apocalypse from Oblivion is over.

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:34 am

But Landfall happened already.

When was this? When did it happen?

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:59 am

When was this? When did it happen?

Somewhere between the end of the OB and the beginning of the new TES book

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:12 am

Wouldn't the Godhead waking up be an apocolypse? I mean, everything would cease to exist, wouldn't it?

Or are we only looking at those that are prophecies?

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:01 am

There is the mention of a Skaal belief in "The End of Seasons" where the Adversary will be known as "Thartaag the World-Devourer" http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Story_of_Aevar_Stone-Singer, although I don't know of any further lore on it.

» Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:13 pm

Wouldn't the Godhead waking up be an apocolypse? I mean, everything would cease to exist, wouldn't it?

Or are we only looking at those that are prophecies?

Yes, technically you're right, but for discussion's sake, let's stick with existing prophesies and myths.

Plus, I dunno if it is conceivable for the godhead to awake...

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:58 am

There is the mention of a Skaal belief in "The End of Seasons" where the Adversary will be known as "Thartaag the World-Devourer" http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Story_of_Aevar_Stone-Singer, although I don't know of any further lore on it.

Sounds like alduin

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:46 am

Sounds like alduin

Alduin isn't merely a devourer, he also starts the world. As such he resembles Satakal, a combination of Satak and Akal, or in the context of Aevar Stone Singer, a combination of the All-Maker and His Adversary.

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:44 am

Yes, technically you're right, but for discussion's sake, let's stick with existing prophesies and myths.

Plus, I dunno if it is conceivable for the godhead to awake...

what is godhead?

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:01 am

Alduin isn't merely a devourer, he also starts the world. As such he resembles Satakal, a combination of Satak and Akal, or in the context of Aevar Stone Singer, a combination of the All-Maker and His Adversary.

It was my lazy answer, and I was tired.

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:07 am

what is godhead?

God, in the sense of everything that is. You might also describe it as universe that encompasses the Aurbis, Anu and Padomay.

» Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:50 pm

possibly the sheogorath quest apocalypse. with burning dogs and dying sheep, not sure if it's lore or not (I would think so). i think the apocalypse was called the rabasa or something

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:36 am

The end of the fifth era, everything will start over with only a single difference than what has already happened.

» Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:38 pm

The end of the fifth era, everything will start over with only a single difference than what has already happened.

:blink: Is this a Landfall thing? Or are you just making something up?

EDIT: Thought so.

EDIT AGAIN: I was reading the sermons of Vivec, when I came across something that might be relevant to this discussion:

I am Vehk, your protector and the protector of Red Mountain until the end of days, which are numbered 3333.

Is he simply speaking of Landfall, or something yet to come?

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:00 am

Making it up.

edit response: It looks like 3333 should be understood as "when the days are complete", like the Son. That's the only answer I'm comfortable with.

http://www.imperial-library.info/forum_archive/index.shtml

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:56 am

don't think there ever was, is, or will be a doomsday thing on Nirn(well, not in the meaning that its one final event where everything gets destroyed). remember World Eating 101?

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:11 am

God, in the sense of everything that is. You might also describe it as universe that encompasses the Aurbis, Anu and Padomay.

so......when it wakes, everything will cease to exist? :shrug:

» Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:15 am

Basically yes.

"Life is but a dream," or rather, "Existence is hallucination," to quote the great Sheogorath.