I see the same lack of co-operation in PC games that you do with console gamers in Halo or CoD, blaming consoles for this is really unfair. The problem is that a lot people play multiplayer shooters like this for bragging rights. They want to kill their friends and be able to show off with kill streaks and whatever else. I really like that Brink is trying to move away from that, into something more co-operative based and just fun to play, rather than frustratingly serious. I think the game will sell well, but I do agree that a lot of the CoD players will quickly move on. Hopefully what's left can form a good community.

Guys, you do realise some people, people who aren't idiots, will not like this game. You act like only idiots wont like it. :rolleyes:

I think the main issue is whether this game can still be competitive while promoting team-play. It's been done successfully before, BF:BC2 for example. In BC2, I find I have a lot more fun playing with my team cooperatively and working together. There are always the lone-wolf recon players just trying to increase their KDR by sniping from the edge of the map, but those guys always have the lowest scores on the end game leader board. I think the elimination of KDR will make people less offended about other team members 'stealing' their kills, and actually promote more cohesive cooperative play. It's true that this game may not be for everyone, but in the end, a review score on a website still represents the selective opinions of a handful of people who could be considerably biased towards one franchise or another for various reasons. Just because a particular game didn't fall into that mold they might be used to, is cause enough for them to give a poor rating. It's unfortunate that so many people base their purchasing decisions on the opinions and ratings given out by the handful who write reviews for those sites.
I think it's unfair to say a game will fail before the public have had a chance to play it. Just because it's not another brick in the wall of the COD franchise, doesn't mean it's going to be a [censored] game. I think a lot of people are actually quite sick of the COD franchise, and simply play Black Ops or MW2 because that's the title that fills their friends list 'currently playing' column. They can keep releasing COD titles, but the fact remains that it's just going to be a rehash of the same old crap with a face-lift and a new title. I applaud SD for taking some risks with Brink and trying to pull the FPS genre in a new direction. COD fans will do what they always do, and that's whine and complain that something isn't like COD, quit, and return to their beloved like the obedient lap-dogs they are. Personally, I think that's great. I'd rather play with people who don't have a problem playing cooperatively with others to have an enjoyable gaming experience. The lone-wolfs can go ahead and brag about their KDR in COD lobbies to their heart's content, but I'd rather look back on some episodes of quality team-work which dominated a group of people who didn't make the choice to cooperate with their team. I'm glad that we finally have a game that rewards people for working together in a way that helps destroy those who don't.

WOAH!!! That's quite the rant there BassAddict. But I agree 100% with everything you said, more or less. What I don't agree with is how you say players play Recon in BC2 just for their KDR but I play the Recon mostly and my KDR is crap. I just enjoy sniping and defending objectives from a distance and take down important enemies such as people on machine guns or other snipers.

There we go much more easier to read :3

cant speak for consoles, dont care either, but I think Brink will rock for PC and be quite successful. While Brink would somewhat be considered a "realistic" shooter there is also a sci fi element to it which will make more people interested. The advanced player movement system (SMART) will bring in players from the Quake and Unreal Tournament series. If the pc ever gets mod support Brink will become the top game for anyone who is interested in going farther than just playing the game.

As long as Brink is not just another bad console port like so many games coming out today I see Brink as becoming the top new game in the competitive pc scene.

Obviously there will be some people who complain, because there always are whiners. But the Metacritic score is going to be at least 85+, so I'll take the bet.

I think theres a lot of 360 gamers out there who are dying for a good class-based, team-based shooter. True, we technically have Team Fortress 2, but Valve doesn't support it on console. I think a lot of Battlefield players (like myself) are going to find this, get really into it, and create a community around it. Thats what I'm hoping, at least.

I call [censored] on this, have you ever played an online game on the console, BFBC2 goes well. Here;s the big thing, there are idiots on each platform. PC gamers aren't better gamers becuase they spent hundreds of dollars on their system.

Your a [censored].

It doesn't matter who will obsess over stats, the point is people like them, and when they don't get them, they [censored] about it and make it seem like the game is less of a quality then it really is.

My point is that its not that hard to add a few more options to the scoreboard so that it doesn't look so dull and boring. Like i said it does not have to be kill/death related, it just helps the overall appeal of the game, i just think a little bit more effort would of been nice, but that is just my opinion.

First off, Im shocked this thread has been allowed to stay open despite the obvious troll attempt by the OP



Second, people will always complain, plain and simple, so Id be a fool to take a bet on " I think people are gonna complain". If the bet were however based solely on the fact that you have little faith in console players (not all of us are 12 and not all of us scream into the microphone) then I would take your bet and I would easily win. About Metacritic, I say they give it at lest an 85.

lol only low scores from GS svck because they are lazy and for them its more of a skim thou then real play.i would take a guess and only say it would get a low score is due too cod/bf fan base and thos lamers who downloaded for 360 and are bashing it and they dont count seeing as they got it for free.this game will get a 85 15 % would be due too the bugs they find.

Yes. I agree. And OP, I will take your bet. People are totally ready for this. Look at all the people that have preordered it,knowing that it is basically forced teamplay. Well, not really forced, but yeah...

Well you'd expect so, I know I do, but just remember that worse things have managed to happen in history.

0/10. Troll harder . For the first week or so, the game will be bad because of all the COD kids playing it. But once they figure out that the game is not just about kills, they will leave and the game will be awesome.

A little off-topic here, but your avatar captivates me. *^*

True, but it also doesn't matter that they like them. There have been many games that have been ruined by stat elitism, with MAG being the obvious example, and SD wants to avoid that with Brink.

I actually agree with him, look at COD, that game has alot of hackers, and none of them could careless as long as they get alot of kills and stuff, and if they get beat they will rage big time, but depends on who they are, but I get his point also, but not black ops, I have yet to see that many hacker on it, because they get ranked down to private for hacking, so it would be kinda dumb to hack..

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Lovley first person shooter i think thats what he meant...

Yeah, this thread is a bit... problematic. Closed for review.