Ehlnofey Evolution

Post » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:16 pm

Y'ffre gave all of himself into creating an intelligent Race, and yet the race split in half and in like 9 ways after that. I want to know when and how each race became what it is.

The Ehlnofey first sread across Nirn, starting in Tamriel (Possible Summerset) but reaching Yokuda and Altmora. Those who stayed on Summerset became Aldmer, those in Skyrim became Falmer, those in Cyrodil became Ayleid, and those in Morrowind became Dwemer. Those on Yokuda be came both the Left-handed Elves AND the Ra Gada. Those on Altmora Became the Nords. The elves on Pyandea became Moaromer (which makes it part of Tamriel, right?)

Ok, So then the a group of Aldmer, following their prophet, left Summerset and reached Morrowind. In such, they turned into Chimer.
Aldmer who believed in Y'ffre above all other gods moved to Valenwood and Elswyr, and Azura changed some of them into the first Kajiit, Binding them to the Lunar Lattice.
Aldmer moved to Highrock.. because they wanted to?
Aldmer who worshiped Triminac were changed by Boethia and made into Orcs. They just split it into Orsinium.

Then Atmora started to freeze over and some Nords came to Tamriel. They Massacred the Falmer, and some went to highrock. Centuries later they mixed with the Aldmer and made Brentons.
During wars with Akavir, Nord and Akaviri Human blood got mixed into the race of Cyrodilic man.
If this is right, than this accounts for all the Ehlnofey races.

Kothrigi, Argonians, and the Hist are supposedly completely different, right?

If Yokudan Ehlnofey turned into Elves AND men, is Yokuda half part of Tamriel? This makes me think that, since there IS the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:Tam-Maps-West_Tamriel.jpg in the middle, the northern part of it is its own continent (Since it matches better with High Rock and Stros M'kai)

I just want to make sure that this info is all right.
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:32 am

I'm not sure about those Kothrigi..they're stated to be a type of Man in several sources. That may be superficial. The Hist worship Sithis...their full relation to creation and to the Argonians has yet to be fully explained.
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Post » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:35 pm

The Ehlnofey first sread across Nirn, starting in Tamriel (Possible Summerset) but reaching Yokuda and Altmora. Those who stayed on Summerset became Aldmer, those in Skyrim became Falmer, those in Cyrodil became Ayleid, and those in Morrowind became Dwemer. Those on Yokuda be came both the Left-handed Elves AND the Ra Gada. Those on Altmora Became the Nords. The elves on Pyandea became Moaromer (which makes it part of Tamriel, right?)

First off, Aldmer = Elven Ehlnofey. Second, I haven't seen anything that says Elven life started specifically in Summerset; just on Tamriel. Concerning Summerset, those are ALTmer. Since Yokudans are men, I'm gonna personally say that the Wandering Ehlnofey, that is, the proto-Humans, were probably there too and became the Yokudans.

Concerning Pyandonea, it's not part of Tamriel...because it's Pyandonea: a different continent.... :\

Then Atmora started to freeze over and some Nords came to Tamriel. They Massacred the Falmer, and some went to highrock. Centuries later they mixed with the Aldmer and made Brentons.
During wars with Akavir, Nord and Akaviri Human blood got mixed into the race of Cyrodilic man.
If this is right, than this accounts for all the Ehlnofey races.


I'm not too sure about the Bretons part. This said, I'll admit i haven't read a lot about it.
Kothrigi, Argonians, and the Hist are supposedly completely different, right?

The Argonians and Hist are indeed different. I thought the Kothringi were just an old tribe of Men, like the Nedes and whatnot.
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:07 am

Bretons are nedics who bred with Altmer. The Nords discovered they were men, after killing a few. Your best bet is to read http://imperial-library.info/obbooks/anuad_paraphrased.shtml.

A large fragment of the Ehlnofey world landed on Nirn relatively intact, and the Ehlnofey living there were the ancestors of the Mer. These Ehlnofey fortified their borders from the chaos outside, hid their pocket of calm, and attempted to live on as before. ... Eventually, the wandering Ehlnofey found the hidden land of Old Ehlnofey... The wandering Ehlnofey expected to be welcomed into the peaceful realm, but the Old Ehlnofey looked on them as degenerates, fallen from their former glory.
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Post » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:32 pm

Bretons are nedics who bred with Altmer. The Nords discovered they were men, after killing a few. Your best bet is to read http://imperial-library.info/obbooks/anuad_paraphrased.shtml.


The Bosmer are also nedics who bred with the Aldmer, IIRC, but their Merish blood is much more prevalent. They first left for Valenwood based on their beliefs in Y'ffre, and over time became the Bosmer - they probably originally looked like Aldmer in the beginning, just like the Chimer.
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:51 am

No, the bosmer were always elves. It was just that they became more in tune with nature, and that they took "mannish wives." They were never nedics, who are humans.
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:50 am

Thought the "mannish wives" thing was just metaphysical slander. Though, once again, I haven't read much about it yet.
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:14 am

Thought the "mannish wives" thing was just metaphysical slander. Though, once again, I haven't read much about it yet.

I assume the "mannish wives" part was more of a they'd rather get jiggy with women who were more like http://www.topmusclegirls.com/Gallery57/Pics.htg/Tina012.jpg than http://www.victorianbazaar.com/Images/2women.gif :P. And yeah, I'd say it's metaphysical slander, but I the main point was to get the point across that the bosmer were never nedic people who interbred with aldmer from Valenwood and became nature worshipers, when they were always mer once Y'ffre stabilized the world.

(the pics are SFW)
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:25 am

http://www.topmusclegirls.com/Gallery57/Pics.htg/Tina012.jpg


Ah...the Wolf Queen herself.
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:08 am

Concerning Pyandonea, it's not part of Tamriel...because it's Pyandonea: a different continent.... :\


I know It is considered a continent, but it is tiny and located closer to Summerset Isle than Valenwood is.

Thanks so much for the help!

Edit:

The Bosmer are also nedics who bred with the Aldmer, IIRC, but their Merish blood is much more prevalent. They first left for Valenwood based on their beliefs in Y'ffre, and over time became the Bosmer - they probably originally looked like Aldmer in the beginning, just like the Chimer.


I never quite understood where Nedics came from. Are the Nords who didn't come from Atmora?
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:06 am

Y'ffre gave all of himself into creating an intelligent Race, and yet the race split in half and in like 9 ways after that. I want to know when and how each race became what it is.

Minor racial splits and differentiations can still occur, that's not what Y'ffre's about. Y'ffre stopped men from changing into flowers and frogs, hardly comparable to getting a different shade of skin or pointy ears - if you're walking down the road and suddenly you turn into a newt you know somebody's 'effing with Y'ffre...

Note that this is why the Bosmer become shape-shifting monsters during the Wild Hunt.
The Ehlnofey first sread across Nirn, starting in Tamriel (Possible Summerset) but reaching Yokuda and Altmora. Those who stayed on Summerset became Aldmer, those in Skyrim became Falmer, those in Cyrodil became Ayleid, and those in Morrowind became Dwemer. Those on Yokuda be came both the Left-handed Elves AND the Ra Gada. Those on Altmora Became the Nords. The elves on Pyandea became Moaromer (which makes it part of Tamriel, right?)

A minor clarification:
Originally everything was one landmass, Altmora is a myth but if you wanted to designate it a place you could use it for this original landmass - either way everything originated on the part of this landmass that became Tamriel. The land is then broken up and becomes the current continents, water comes in and separates everything. From this view the Ehlnofey of Yokuda & Akavir didn't migrate across Nirn from Tamriel, rather Yokuda and Akavir migrated across Nirn from Tamriel with the Ehlnofey on them - maybe draw a picture of massive ships made out of continents...
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Post » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:44 pm

A minor clarification:
Originally everything was one landmass, Altmora is a myth but if you wanted to designate it a place you could use it for this original landmass - either way everything originated on the part of this landmass that became Tamriel. The land is then broken up and becomes the current continents, water comes in and separates everything. From this view the Ehlnofey of Yokuda & Akavir didn't migrate across Nirn from Tamriel, rather Yokuda and Akavir migrated across Nirn from Tamriel with the Ehlnofey on them - maybe draw a picture of massive ships made out of continents...


CRAP. I KNEW I forgot something.... forgot about everything being mostly land...

Darn...
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Post » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:24 am

No, the bosmer were always elves. It was just that they became more in tune with nature, and that they took "mannish wives." They were never nedics, who are humans.


Ah, my bad. I took the "mannish wives" thing to mean the Aldmer/Bosmer literally took Men as their wives and husbands. Whatevs.
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