I wanted to know a bit more about the Red Diamond and was looking some things up about it...

When i suddenly thought....

How can Pelinal Whitestrake have a red diamond as cresent on his armor and weapons while the Red Diamond only became important and the deathbed of Alessia when the covenant was made, wich was probably later then when Pelinal stormed White Gold Tower?

Also i was just wondering out of curiosity if there are also non-TES story wich involve this kind of symbol...

Pelinal is a version of Shezar, who gave Alessia the amulet on her deathbed. The story talks of Shezar/Akatosh ripping out his heart (the exact place the amulet was in Pelinal) and giving to Alessia. Its also a symbol of how vital Pelinal was to the rebellion and how vital the rebellion was to Pelinal.

What to have your mind blown? The Amulet of Kings (that is Chim-et-Adabal) was made by the Ayleids as the stone to the White Gold tower

Ehmm... sorry but I can't reaaly locate the answer on my question XD :S...

its in my first sentence. Pelinal = Shezar. Shezar = a god. Shezar gave Alessia the amulet.

EDIT: Nevermind.

Also, if I understand correctly, Pelinal is in some sense from the future, as well as being a construct. Though he's still an avatar, as Lady Nerevar mentioned.

I always figured the future thing as part of the avatar. Think this way, Shezzar is Akatosh, all that blah blah blah. 'Kay? That means he is space and also time. Therefore he is from the future, and the past, and the present. The armor he simply chose to take from the future because it was better.

and he chose future origins, so he could do that "Greetings, cavemen! I am a delegate of the future. I am your predecessor; your child. Kneel before my whitestrake. Obey!" thing.


A genie and his lamp, I'm thinking.

Well if a super-primitive (even by the standards of the slave rebels) appeared and said "I am your salvation and will lead you to freedom" I don't think many people would listen. Appearing as a man from the future turned more heads.

Indeed, the Amulet is a very important piece of lore. It's tied in with the Towers, the relationship between Lorkhan and Akatosh, the Alessian Rebellion, the Covenant, etc.

The Song makes it a little fuzzy (at least to me) of when exactly Alessia gets the Amulet. My favorite idea is that Pelinal has the Amulet, the answer to her prayers, from the get go, and as an avatar he is that Stone's Guardian. So if it is the Stone to begin with, then did Pelinal take it from some Ayleids? Or did Akatosh/Lorkhan take it from them and give it to their avatar?

Really gives new meaning to the star shaped hole in his chest



PS Real quick, was the Liminal Barrier up before Alessia's death? Since that was when they made the Covenant with Lorkhan (Shezzar)/Akatosh, and is apparently what Martin changed at the end of Oblivion. Just wondering

I would venture a yes, but the Dragonblood pact changed how the barrier was observed by all parties. Men had to be involved, so as to avoid trespassing (disregarding backdoors), since Alessia made the Empire.

Also, you had Red Tower up. That helped too what with Lorkhan's heart (make the symbolic connections on your own) powering it.