Singing telegrams? Well that would be kind of nice actually. Look, I'm not trying to assume anything, but from what I've read, it seems some people want the 'free' fast travel to disappear. If you read ANY argument from anyone that wants to keep fast travel, we are not opposed to any other ideas at all! We welcome any method for travelling, as long as our free fast travel option is not removed from the game. Am I misunderstanding the other side of the argument? You talk about having no choice, yet from my point of view, it seems some people would like the free fast travel to be removed, removing a choice from other. If I've misunderstood, my apologies. They can have whatever travel system they want, the more the merrier.


An 'option' is the ability to perform a task more than one way. RL can include: a car, a bus, walking, bicycle, etc... If I could snap my fingers, I'd do that. Oblivion quests revolved around people travelling long distances at times. You are offered the following: Fast travel, running, walking, a horse. Deny if of you like, but they are all forms of travelling. And it is all optional. How is it that Bethesda encouraged the use of fast travel? By making people travel immersively over their beautiful landscape by horse? I hope there are several travel options in Skyrim.

Yes but the question the op asked was whatever we liked his idea or not, which was what i answered. Sure most casual players would probably prefer the oblivion fast travel system but that's really not my concern. I only reply from my own perspective and i don't think i gave the impression that it was anything other than that.

What the casual and hardcoe crowd want is often conflicting and while it's true there is more casual players than hardcoe players, making the game too accessible is not necessary a smart move even from a cold marketing perspective. Not that i claim that anyone who prefer the oblivion system is automatically less hardcoe mind you, just that the Morrowind system could be implemented without hurting the experience for most casual gamers in any significant way and the ones who would give up on the game just because of that is not likely to enjoy a game like the Elder Scrolls anyway.

I also think you underestimate the casual players. If morrowind style fast travel was such a big deal for most people, why don't they complain about Rockstars games?

That would be improvement but rather have to go speak to a guy to fast-travel would be better

This doesn't make sense. Who would we be paying? Ourselves?
I'd rather that they just add random monster encounters along your route. That way, you'd fight the monster and look around and notice that you haven't explored this area before, so you might walk around and find a cool dungeon, nice scenery, or something.

Exactly. It would make no sense to have to pay to walk or ride somewhere on your own. It would break the immersion even more so than just using the fast travel.

Either keep it the way it is, bring back Morrowind's system and improve upon it, or use both.

That doesn't mean that one bug isn't more forgivable or easier to overlook. This is all that was being responded to. Regardless of whether or not they were bugs, Morrowind's still mostly made sense in the context of the world. Ships carry supplies, one second feather spells do not.

Sure, under certain conditions the believability of Morrowind's system starts to break down. For example, as you said, carrying thousands of daedric suits around on a gondola (though this would, of course, require cheating anyways). But Oblivion's believability breaks down in every single instance. You could be carrying one pound over your encumbrance or a few hundred, and in both cases a one second feather spell would never have been enough to carry you across the map.

Both instances might be oversights by the developers, but that doesn't mean they are equally egregious or that one doesn't have a far greater chance of interrupting the plausibility of the world.

Sounds like the OP wants something like the fast travel system in TES 2. If we are stuck with something like oblivions fast travel and have no other option, then I would like the OP's suggestion.

I think a fast travel Daggerfall style would be great.
You could travel to any known location on the map and choose to travel fast and dangerous, or slow and safe.
Both ways cost money, to pay fares and sleeping in inns etc.
The fast way is cheaper, but you have a random chance of your travel being interrupted by a hostile.
You could also buy a horse or a boat to make travel faster and cheaper.

Next to that I would love to see some Morrowind style fast travel networks.

It should not be free from risk or payment as in Oblivion.

In Daggerfall you had multiple travel options, travel on foot, boat or horse as I remember, they used different speed and horse or ship cost money if you didn’t have them. You could also travel fast or take your time hwo let you arrive in the morning with full health and magic.

Problem was that the cost was minimal; you travelled inside the province and paid a couple of septims. Even crossing the game world was cost perhaps 200 so you could ignore cost.
And the menu was mostly annoying with the exception of hurry and takes you time.

The whole point of a morrowind type travel system is to see more of the world and not fall into the impatient jump around game.

I do however think fast travel should have some sort of fee associated with it, not necessarily money, but some kind of very slight deterrent. Maybe, just because you are walking on a road, one of your skills will decrease by 1 because you are not using it. This wouldn't happen every time. Maybe every 5th or 10th time it could happen. It would never decrease a major skill because those are important and you use them all the time. Perhaps just a random minor skill will get decreased so sometimes you won't care (heavy armour as a mage), but sometimes it may hurt a little more (if you've been working on your sneak skill to get around powerful enemies as a warrior).

It's just one idea, and decrementing skills are already a consequence in the game (prison), although I think it is still unknown how Skyrim will deal with it.

Daggerfall style, pick your destination, get a total fee amount for travel expenses, Inns, tolls and costs, accept or cancel.

I think it's adecent idea myself. could even add a dragon age aspect when your see your map progress in fast motion, and random encounters occur, if you travel carelessly, it's faster, but encouters are more likely to be ambushes. careful travel is longer, but encounters are more prone to be avoidable engagements, or start with an advantage.

would be neat indeed. too much programming for a system most will not use.