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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:27 pm

Orcs are mer, not beast

But Khajiit at least started off as mer, and while they may have been changed physically, I think they at least partially are. The only one that doesn't at least have a common point of origin is Argonians.
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KRistina Karlsson
 
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:34 am

But Khajiit at least started off as mer, and while they may have been changed physically, I think they at least partially are. The only one that doesn't at least have a common point of origin is Argonians.

True, but we have yet to see a khajiit-man/mer coupling, so I'm reserving judgment till we can find a hammered khajiit and man/mer to get jiggy with it.
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:45 pm

I'd like to add that the Khajit's ever changing birth morphology and close ties to the phases of Masser and Secunda might have separated them from more "normal" mer enough to make them incompatible. Though they originated as mer, I think by this point they're something fundamentally different.
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:20 pm

I'd like to add that the Khajit's ever changing birth morphology and close ties to the phases of Masser and Secunda might have separated them from more "normal" mer enough to make them incompatible. Though they originated as mer, I think by this point they're something fundamentally different.

Okay, so what you are saying is we should get a Senche-Raht extremely hammered, and find a really hammered bosmer, and see what the results are months later?
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:56 pm

Okay, so what you are saying is we should get a Senche-Raht extremely hammered, and find a really hammered bosmer, and see what the results are months later?


Who knows what we could accomplish with a pair of "volunteers", a few dozen jugs of matze, and a copius application of scrib jelly!
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:37 pm

Maybe make a Wasted Khajiits Gone Wild?
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:08 pm

Given the barbs are needed for reproduction in cats, I doubt a male of any other race could impregnate a female khajiit. The other way around, I do not know.
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:27 am

The Lusty Argonian Maid:

Lifts-Her-Tail: Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.

Crantius Colto: Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?

Lifts-Her-Tail: I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.

Crantius Colto: So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.

Lifts-Her-Tail: You embarrass me, sir!

Crantius Colto: Fear not. You are safe here with me.

Lifts-Her-Tail: I must finish my cleaning, sir. The mistress will have my head if I do not!

Crantius Colto: Cleaning, eh? I have something for you. Here. Polish my spear.

Lifts-Her-Tail: But it is huge! It could take me all night!

Crantius Colto: Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.

END OF ACT IV, SCENE III


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As for vampirism, could we conceptualize it as a disease that affects the genetic code of the bearer? A real life example is a bit impossible to come by but chemical poisonings and radiation can alter the production of sperm in the gonads.

I think the Grey Prince story does imply strongly that the Grey Prince is not simply a human half-breed.
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:44 am

The question of vampirism becomes more muddied when you introduce the lore about the Quarra clan of vampires from Morrowind, where it states, clearly that it is is a strain which is incurable. As it is in Vvardenfell that these Quarra are found, might it have been why Vicente Valtieri was in self exile in the wastes until the Brotherhood found him?

The player can achieve a cure in Oblivion, suggesting that many strains can be cured, therefore a disease. It may not be transmitted through six, as other diseases, unless genetically borne, are not passed on through having six, so why would vampirism. Traits from the vampire would , however be passed on in the normal way.

And Khajiit/human? Why not? Barenziah enjoyed a Khajiit lover, but , because of the barbs, I would think a female Khajiit/ male of other race pairing more likely. (I'm commenting as a female here!) The Khajiit type that is in evidence in Cyrodiil basically comprised of furry 'humans'. If orcs and humans are compatible, and fertile, then I see no problem with men and Khajiitii.
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:42 am

As stated by Crimson Paladin, the barbs on a male cats (censored) are required for reproduction. It's unsure if this is how it works in TES, but I would guess that female khajiit can't get pregnant from a non-khajiiti male because of this.
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:42 pm

As stated by Crimson Paladin, the barbs on a male cats (censored) are required for reproduction. It's unsure if this is how it works in TES, but I would guess that female khajiit can't get pregnant from a non-khajiiti male because of this.

But in real life, the barbs are needed simply because Male cats... aren't 'good' enough to... 'stimulate' female cats. Maybe Kajiit, being mer and all, are 'bigger'.

I had a hard time trying to keep that PG
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:51 pm

The Lusty Argonian Maid:

Lifts-Her-Tail: Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.

Crantius Colto: Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?

Lifts-Her-Tail: I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.

Crantius Colto: So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.

Lifts-Her-Tail: You embarrass me, sir!

Crantius Colto: Fear not. You are safe here with me.

Lifts-Her-Tail: I must finish my cleaning, sir. The mistress will have my head if I do not!

Crantius Colto: Cleaning, eh? I have something for you. Here. Polish my spear.

Lifts-Her-Tail: But it is huge! It could take me all night!

Crantius Colto: Plenty of time, my sweet. Plenty of time.

END OF ACT IV, SCENE III


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As for vampirism, could we conceptualize it as a disease that affects the genetic code of the bearer? A real life example is a bit impossible to come by but chemical poisonings and radiation can alter the production of sperm in the gonads.

I think the Grey Prince story does imply strongly that the Grey Prince is not simply a human half-breed.



The Argonian part has nothing to do with REPRODUCTION. Again..you can have six with anything really..doesn't mean you can have babies. There are people here on Earth who have had six with cows, sheep..dolphins : / all variety of animals really. And it's of course absolutely impossible for them to reproduce that way. I feel like even though some people in Tamriel may be in an interracial relationship or just have six with Argonians and Khajiit occasionally, that's in no way an indication that offspring can occur.

We don't even know if there's a such thing as a genetic code in Tamriel. It operates on extremely different metaphysical principles from our world. The whole issue with the Grey prince is... a gray area. No pun intended.
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:31 pm

King Hrol did it with a mound of mud and produced Reman. I don't believe any union is impossible - maybe unlikely - but when you have a surfeit of Gods and Daedric Lords dipping their fingers in and out of a realm, anything can happen.



PS: Can someone post links to the Lore that shows Orcs becoming Elves? I would be interested in reading that.

To lazy to find it myself, but search TIL for "THE True Nature Of Orcs" or perhaps "THE True Nature Of Orsimer"
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:28 am

Considering how human-like the Khajiit of Arena and Daggerfall(Ohmes-Raht) are, I think a Khajiit and a human/mer could produce offspring, especially since Khajiit are mer.
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:38 pm

Would it be proper to use the term Khajiitimeri? or Khajiitimer?
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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:11 pm

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Post » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:50 pm

Personally, I think that the beast races are incompatable with humans. Khajiit, while once mer, have been radically changed. While their body structures are similar enough to humans' and mers' that they can . . . you know, do it . . . their internal body structure is probably so different that the sperm wouldn't "stick", so to speak, to a human's or elf's eggs.

As for Argonians, I doubt that their body structure even allows them to be able to have sixual relations with any of the other races, let alone have children with them.

On the topic of Agronak and his half-vampirism, it is heavily implied throughout the game that he is too good to simply be half-orc and half-imperial. There is something that is diffrent enough about him that makes him such a good warrior. His strength, while already great from being an orc, and speed greater than most people's, which can only happen if something was PASSED DOWN to him from one of his parents.
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