I wouldn't want to live forever, but to be protected from traumatic death would be pretty sweet.

Hhahahahahaha, yea I'm sure you don't want to feel superior. Oh kay then. I'll just be over here laughing. Oh that's a good one, hhahahaha people don't want to be superior. Even morals evolved to give us a sense of superiority over others.

Yes, I'd like the mouth candy teleporter...and...the...stomach carbohydrate regulator, please. You know what, no. I think I'll go with the perceived time dilation module and...the...heroin. Yep. What's that? Yes, I read the 'happiness is relative' clause and I think it's rubbish. Heroin, please.

Ahh, the in-experience of youth. When you get older, you find you have more important things to worry about then feeling superior to other people. Like where the money's going to come from to get your aging vehicle fixed, how you're going to pay for the Doctors bill, how to set a good example for your children, how to get along with your children well without being their friend. There are so many more important things in life then feeling superior to others, that is primarily the domain(but not wholly limited to) of Athletes, teenagers/young advlts, and the filthy rich.

Ah... the hopeful ignorance of an untrained mind. If only I were so fortunate, but alas. Why did you respond to my post? Did it irk you?

An untrained mind? Ok, so insults are the thing now, all-right. All I did was reference the fact that your young(I know I've seen you post somewhere before that you're between 19-22), and I did that because I know when I was that age, yes, I did want to feel superior, to BE superior to other people. But as I've grown older and matured, I don't want to be better then other people. I want to have money to provide for my family. I want to have a happy, long, successful marriage. I want to be loved by those around me. I could care less about wanting to be better looking then someone else, or more popular, or have more cars.

No, your post didn't Irk me, it saddened me, as I've always thought better of you. Didn't picture you as someone who had the attitude that everyone in the world is out to be/feel better then everyone else. Having seen your posts in the past, having talked to you somewhat outside of these forums, and playing a PBP game with you, I always saw you as a bit more mature then other people your age. I guess I was wrong, especially considering your response to my post. Throwing insults is the REAL mark of an untrained mind. I guess maybe you threw it because you perceived MY mention of your youth as an insult, but it wasn't, though I can see how it might have been construed other-wise, so maybe it's my fault for not fully explaining myself.

Why are you saying any of this pretentious [censored]? WHY!? Why are you saddened for me? WHY are you posting this instant of a second. If you thought better of me it means now you don't now, your better than me. Self esteem right? Your the one in the right (in your mind)? If you don't care about looking good and feeling superior... why do you talk to anyone at all?

I don't feel Superior to you, I feel more experienced then you in the ways of life, through virtue of having lived nearly a decade longer, and knowing that when I was your age, my attitude was similar, but now that I"m older, it's changed, significantly. I thought better of you as in I thought you were more mature. I see I was wrong. It doesn't make me better then you. Our lives have the same value. We each have loved ones, we each have people we love. If you want to turn this into a flame-war though, count me out, please.

edit: I talk to people to get to know them better, to build better relationships with them, I do it so they can get to know me better, and view me as a better friend then the day before. I'm sorry if this doesn't gel with your view, but not everyone in this world is out to prove themselves better then everyone else.

You feel more experienced? Bam... superior in the ways of living. It feels good to know you've got experience. To beat people like me in a debate about life. Good being superior isn't it? Why does being more experienced make you feel good? No circular logic now. Now your trying to appeal to me sense of morality, to prove your superior in ethics and morality. If you didn't care about your own self esteem you would never have defended yourself, or cared. Would have been a robot for all we care.

Why do you pick certain friends over others? Because some make bad friends? Inferior to you?

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You mistake me for only believing superiority matters. It doesn't, but its one of the most fundamental needs as a living creature, if they're aware of it or not. It underscores all human/and maybe all animal actions. I'm not saying there isn't good in the world, but looking deeper reveals why people do what they do and feel what they feel. It's hard to accept sometimes. If you want me to stop just take the blue pill.

You know, you seem to be getting your back up over something that isn't even necessary. There is truth to what he is saying without a superiority complex. I say the same thing to my kids, and have pretty much their whole growing up, and not to sound or feel superior to them. They NOW know exactly what I meant by more life experience and don't think I was lording over them or feeling superior to them. It doesn't make Starwulf superior to you, nor do I see his post coming off that way. :shrug:

I don't FEEL more experienced in the ways of life, I am simply because I've lived longer. That's not being superior to anyone. I'm not trying to beat you in a debate of life, I'm merely trying to say that other people have differing views. It is possible to have a different view and not feel superior. Being more experienced doesn't make me feel good. If anything it makes me feel worse because of things I've had to go through and deal with. I'm not trying to prove myself superior, at all. I'm just giving a different viewpoint. You can continuously twist my words around all you want to try to prove your point, but I'm done arguing with you over it. I choose my friends by those who have interests similar to me, who I get along with. the people I'm not friends with aren't "inferior" to me, or "inferior" to my other friends, they just aren't people that I gel with. They have their positives and negatives, just as I do. My life has no more intrinsic value then anyone else on this planet. Honestly, if you really want to know, I personally believe my life has less value then pretty much anyone else out there. If it wasn't for my wife and children, I likely wouldn't even be alive to this day.

Why is the need to feel superior a "fundamental" need for a living creature? I don't understand that at all.

Not a single person could just answer my question. Not a one. Well I'm off to play some video games. Here's a bucket of blue pills. If this conversation has negatively affected your opinion of me. Well at least you know you had the moral high ground. Which feels good, and why does good feel good (no circular logic)? Why do you need "good"? Start there, maybe you'll get somewhere someday. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DVAsmrwdtQ&feature=related

I don't have the "moral" high ground. I have a differing viewpoint, afforded to me by being older, which doesn't make me feel superior. I didn't see a specific question asked, just a bunch word-twisting trying to prove your own viewpoint. I don't feel "good" by having this argument. I don't feel "Good" for sharing my viewpoint. if anything, I'm frustrated by the fact you felt the need to be so condescending towards me the entire time. I don't think negatively of you because of this, differently, yes, negatively, no. When you're done playing video games, feel free to pose your question in specific terms, and I'll try to answer it as well as I can.

Edit: Actually, let me be more specific: I answered every question you specifically asked of me. If there was an overlaying question that I am somehow missing, please state it in clear terms and I"ll try my best to answer it.

edit2: I've decided that I"ll try to dissect each of your posts and every question, in order:

"Why did I post, did yours irk me": No, it did not irk me. I felt that your post implied that every single person on this planet feels the need to be/try to be superior to others. I posted to give a different viewpoint, that perhaps not everyone is out to prove themselves superior to others.

"Why did I post that prententious [censored] WHY!? Why are you saddened for me? WHY are you posting this instant of a second" I posted to defend my viewpoint because you mocked it. I don't believe anyone should mock another person, for any reason. I had enough of that when I was younger because I didn't stand up for myself. I was saddened for you because I feel that perhaps you've had some rough times that have caused you to be jaded(because I don't understand how someone could have your viewpoint, unless it was caused by some sort of bad event in their life. But again, that's because I don't understand it. Which actually makes me inferior because I'm not all-knowing and understanding) in such a way to make you respond in the way you did. Again, not feel superior, but sympathy, as I've had my fair share of hardships in life. I posted that second because I refreshed the page to see what your response was. Not to feel superior, just to see what you said and maybe respond to it, which I did. I don't believe i'm the one in the right, I do think I have a differing viewpoint which has as much validity as your own, despite your efforts to trash it and make it not as valid.

"You feel more experienced? Good being superior isn't it? Why does being more experienced make you feel good? Why do you pick certain friends over others? Because some make bad friends? Inferior to you?" I already answered the first question in an earlier post. I don't understand where you get the "good being superior isn't it". I never said I felt good about anything, and I've yet to say I feel superior, please explain that second one. Same for the third, it makes no sense, as I've never said that being experienced makes me feel good. Please read my post responding to that to see how I actually feel worse. I already answered the fourth set of questions as well in a previous post.

"Well at least you know you had the moral high ground. Which feels good, and why does good feel good (no circular logic)? Why do you need "good"? Start there, maybe you'll get somewhere someday." I didn't have the moral high ground. I had a different view-point, which I attempted to share and was ridiculed for. Still unsure as to why. I don't need "good". I want "happy". Happy and superior are not mutually dependent upon each other.

So, what question am I missing?

there are worthier causes. next.

Yeah . . . No. Haven't you ever seen movies? When people try to play God, bad stuff always happens. Besides, I'd rather be a 100% All-Natural human being with flaws and limitations han some freaky half-human half-robot thing.

That sounds bizarre, it would eliminate population problems, but how exactly would you reproduce?

But anyway, this doesn't seem like a worthy use of money or time