Mod load order question for you smart people here...

Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:19 pm

As you will be able to tell from the following list, I have NO CLUE what I am doing with this whole load order thing. Any help would be really appreciated. I could very well have conflicts out the butt here. The game crashes right after Bethesda vid plays.
Really appreciate it! Sincerely.

Oblivion.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Harvest[Containers].esm
Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Knights.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp
Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
SaddleBag_noMenu.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
GuilesHuntsmenLodge.esp
vendorchest-fix.esp
All Natural.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
RealSwords - Orc LO v1.0.esp
RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp
RealSwords - Khajiit HI v1.3.esp
RealSwords - Khajiit HI-NPC v1.3.esp
RealSwords - Khajiit LO v1.3.esp
RealSwords - Orc HI_NPC v1.0.esp
RealSwords - Argonian HI-NPC.esp
RealSwords - Redguard HI-NPC.esp
Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
vendorchest-fix Shivering Isles.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
Get Wet.esp
Francesco's Optional Files.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp
Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Better Cities .esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
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Amy Smith
 
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:19 pm

Download http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 and let it do it for you
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:51 pm

Download http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 and let it do it for you

what mish said. BOSS does an amzing job at this and is just 1 click to work :D
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:08 am

what mish said. BOSS does an amzing job at this and is just 1 click to work :D



I ran BOSS but the BOSSLOG it produces is completely blank. Also I disabled Better Cities and it still crashes. I have wryebash, OMM and OBSE installed. Which should I use to run the game. Do I have to use OBSE or will the other programs use OBSE automatically? Also any other ideas on why the game crashes?

Dude seriously I will PAY you for help here. THANK YOU.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:58 pm

Disabled EVERY mod in the omm and it works so I know it has to be a mod causing trouble.
So many cool mods. Must play now!
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:32 pm

Disabled EVERY mod in the omm and it works so I know it has to be a mod causing trouble.
So many cool mods. Must play now!

ObMM not OMM :P and i do recommend BOSS it will let you use all those mods without trouble
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James Wilson
 
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:20 pm

I ran BOSS but the BOSSLOG it produces is completely blank. Also I disabled Better Cities and it still crashes. I have wryebash, OMM and OBSE installed. Which should I use to run the game. Do I have to use OBSE or will the other programs use OBSE automatically? Also any other ideas on why the game crashes?

Dude seriously I will PAY you for help here. THANK YOU.

in wrye bash, make sure you disable Lock Times. Then it should work. also its ObMM not OMM :P
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:06 pm

So many cool mods. Must play now!


Theres your mistake.

Throwing a load of picks in from the tesnexus candyshop with only a cursory glance at the readme is going to cause you more frustration than taking each mod one at a time and fully appreciating all the advice in the readme's - Considering the time that goes into creating them and compiling as user friendly a readme as the author is capable for a trouble free experience... you are likely to run into the acronym RTFM pretty soon.

For instance, after installing All Natural did you read the All Natural readme that comes with the mod.....

"This should not be used with any mod that is already included in All Natural (Real Lights, Natural Interiors, >Natural Weather< {hint hint}, AWS, and Enhanced Weather (except for the above mentioned Shivering Isles only EW install option)."

Sorry to sound a bit harsh, just trying to ward of the inevitable and possibly save you some grief in the future - I would recommend having a good read of this....

http://www.tesivpositive.animolious.com/

TomLong has put many hours/days/months into compiling that site, its a goldmine of info for players. Good luck modding your game, ensure you have the tools to mod oblivion setup properly, it can be quick once you know what you are doing, but it needs a bit of time invested studying first.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:18 am

Theres your mistake.

Throwing a load of picks in from the tesnexus candyshop with only a cursory glance at the readme is going to cause you more frustration than taking each mod one at a time and fully appreciating all the advice in the readme's - Considering the time that goes into creating them and compiling as user friendly a readme as the author is capable for a trouble free experience... you are likely to run into the acronym RTFM pretty soon.

For instance, after installing All Natural did you read the All Natural readme that comes with the mod.....

"This should not be used with any mod that is already included in All Natural (Real Lights, Natural Interiors, >Natural Weather< {hint hint}, AWS, and Enhanced Weather (except for the above mentioned Shivering Isles only EW install option)."

Sorry to sound a bit harsh, just trying to ward of the inevitable and possibly save you some grief in the future - I would recommend having a good read of this....

http://www.tesivpositive.animolious.com/

TomLong has put many hours/days/months into compiling that site, its a goldmine of info for players. Good luck modding your game, ensure you have the tools to mod oblivion setup properly, it can be quick once you know what you are doing, but it needs a bit of time invested studying first.



I honestly read everything and had a firm grasp on it, but its easy for a newcomer to get lost with all of this. Having said that I think the problem lies with either harvest containers or deadly reflex as everything else is now active and the game is working.

Two oddities though:

1. my guy's hands re blue and so is his neck.
2. New items are appearing in the stores, but with no icon. when I buy them them appear in my inventory, but not on my character. Equipping my bow gives him unarmed fists.

Really do appreciate the help.

Oh and I tried turning lock times off in wrye but BOSS still gives me a blank log. hmmm
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:26 am

Like I said on the TESNexus forums, you're using my Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp without the main Immersive Interiors.esp plugin. Use both or only Immersive Interiors.esp.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:45 pm

As you will be able to tell from the following list, I have NO CLUE what I am doing with this whole load order thing. Any help would be really appreciated. I could very well have conflicts out the butt here. The game crashes right after Bethesda vid plays.
Really appreciate it! Sincerely.

Serioulsy; Use BOSS.
If it didn't work correctly, then you did something wrong.

You should have these files in your Data folder:
BOSS.bat
BOSS.exe
masterlist.txt

Run the BOSS.bat file (not the .exe!)



Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp <--- That won't work without the Immersive Interiors.esp file, nor will it work when loaded before All Natural.esp.

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp <-- And you CAN NOT have two weather mods installed! Get rid of this one, keep All Natural.
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I ran BOSS but the BOSSLOG it produces is completely blank.

See above.

I have wryebash, OMM and OBSE installed. Which should I use to run the game. Do I have to use OBSE or will the other programs use OBSE automatically? Also any other ideas on why the game crashes?

You have to run the game through OBSE for it (OBSE and the mods that use it) to work.
As you have Wrye Bash (with which you should really build a Bashed Patch as well) then check the "OBSE Enabled/Disabled" button at the bottom left of Wrye Bash (green square) and then launch the game from there.
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