How can i know if the Ayleidoon where okay with the practice of necromancy?

Where they like the Psijics and wanted to ban it, since they both follow the ways of the Aldmers...?

discuss.

Thanks

I'd assume that, from the number of Lichis in their ruins, they didn't care about Necromancy.

The Psijics don't really care either: they tought Mannimarco until he left – supposedly on good terms with them – to explore the rest of Tamriel.

Unless the whole story of Vanus Galerion is more biased against Mannimarco than we really know, Mannimarco was actually kicked out, while Vanus Galerion left on good terms

i don't think there is any information either way. The Atmer and the Dunmer are opposed to necromancy due to their regard for their ancestors, but we don't know if the Ayleids had the same opinions in that field. On the other hand we don't have references of them practicing necromancy either. either way, i could totally see them necromancing the bodies of their nedic slaves. Even death will not free you.

This is strictly opinion, but the Ayelid strike me as the kind who would force their slaves to get physical with necro'ed corpses, light them on fire; and flippantly ask their children: 'which part of the show did you like best?' I think they would have pioneered necromancy, to prolong the torture and service of their slaves, and gawk at their craftsmanship -probably rearranging body parts and painting them in humiliating ways. There's no doubt the Altmer are an ends-justify-means people, but they would never behave with such decadence. At least they have a plan to remove mankind on the metaphysical level, ya know?

now that you mention it, there are references to flesh sculpture...

I always imagined the Ayleids skinning the humans like animals and using them as throw rugs or something. They're represented as being sadistic and cruel.

Come on. Imperialist Propaganda.

In all the Lore books, there is are two accounts of a meetings with Aylieds not during war time. Both times they not only helped, but saved the lives of the authors. (I think)

Hell, some Aylieds even supported the end of slavery.

Many did. Propaganda isn't wholey false, though. There was slavery, and it was gruesome. This isn't unusual or even uncommon in our own world. Thanks to magic, perverts have found ways to inflict pain without killing, perhaps Ayleid sorcerers prided themselves on how long they could keep a body 'alive' through torture; kept alive, like the slothful addict in Seven.

One of those accounts being Carlovac Townway's heavily romanticised 2920, The Last Year of the First Era, where a naked Wild Elf helps a distraught Dunmer woman birth her child in the middle of nowhere. As a whole though, I think their society would have indeed been quite perverse, cruel and sadistic - Just look at the murders in Knights of the Nine, they seemed especially brutal.

The instance of the Wild Elf in 2920 is an instance of a post-Revolution Ayleid, so he cannot be taken as an example of the way they were before they were forsaken by their gods, destroyed by political infighting, attacked from the north by the Nords, and attacked from within by their slaves.

Also, recall the hanging cages over gas vents encountered in a couple Ayleid ruins.

Not to mention said Elf transforming from a bird into a naked Mer before the character's eyes - Is there even shape-shifting magic in The Elder Scrolls?

could be some sort of spell :shrug:

looking at this through the lens of orientalism (since i'm writing finals and feeling nerdy): the Other typically has two paradoxical natures: savage/evil and down-to-earth/good. the slaving, torturing Ayleids fulfill the first, the helping reclusive Ayleids of 2920 fulfill the later.

I'm not sure if gods and dragons use shape-shifting magic, but they are capable of shape-shifting. Whether shape-shifing magic exists in TES universe or not, illusion spells exist and may be the explanation for "shape-shifting". I believe Jagar Tharn used an illusion spell to imitate the emperor.

Walter:Witches, in particular, are known for their ability to shapeshift, as in the case of the witches of Glenmoril Wyrd.

Those weren't Ayleids, they Were Aurorians. Aylieds die when they are killed, they don't get sent back to oblivion (With the exeption of one particular demi-god)

Aurorans - Right, well you got me there.

It wouldn't be too far of a stretch to imagine that the Necromancy was tolerated by some Ayleids, considering how different they were culturally from their Altmer Cousins. Plus, it might help explain the Ayleid Ruins which contain only undead, and no Necromancers.

Also, when the 'bird-men" saved Topal from starvation, they must have realised that he was a fellow Mer. And, being pre-literate, they might have not been enslaving nedic people and kothrigi people yet re weren't any people besides Kothrigi to enslave, and I'm sure that the Kothrigi had yet to leave Argonia.

I doubt that the Ayleids had any qualms about using the corpses of their slaves. In fact considering what they did to them while they were alive, my guess is that being turned into a zombie was the slaves' least concern.

And looking at the Ayleid ruins it is easy to believe a good portion of the horror stories were true though I believe the sadistic practices were limited to a decadent aristocracy instead of the mass of common Ayleids.

I'm hoping for a Treatise on Ayleids book in the next Elder Scrolls game. After all this discussion, I still feel they are the decadent, cruel slave-masters they are made out to be in Oblivion.