New Install; adjusting the 'My Games\Oblivion' Folder : IV

» Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:40 pm

Installing on a new computer, all was well so until the end. I saved a copy of the 'My Games\Oblivion' folder from my original install on the first computer. Also saved a copy of the folder on the current machine. Finished the last mods, loaded and saved, everything works. I then replaced the current My Games folder with the old one, so as to load a save from my the first computer. Now every save crashes. Launching the game w/out DarnUI crashes on startup.

I've replaced the folder with the exact copy I made before any transfers or adjustments, but loading any save or new game will still crash now. Did the simple act of replacing do something irreversible? The My Games folder is exactly as it was before transferring the old stuff now, so I'm at a loss. Any help is appreciated.

The load order is exactly the same for both installs, with the exception of Atmospheric Loading Screens, which was removed.

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» Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:38 pm

First I'd try rebuilding your bashed patch, even though it looks like it shouldn't need it. I've had that fix some on start crashes for me. Make sure you have the Oblivion folder from your original install when you build the patch. Also is your new machine Win 7? Did you follow all the tips for installing under Win 7? If you are running with Win 7 and have an Nvidia card with dual monitors, you'll have to disable the dual monitors (switch to single monitor mode) to get Oblivion to run.

If rebuilding the bashed patch doesn't work, I'd try deleting your Oblivion ini and letting Oblivion create a new one. You'll have to copy Darn's ini changes back in afterwards or reinstall Darn.

I lost my hard drive and had to reinstall everything. I paid to get the data recovered from the failed drive and I was able to load my saved games into the new install. I had even gone from XP (which is what the games were saved under) to Win 7 in the process and it worked, so it is possible!

» Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:40 pm

As above plus:

A. does it crash with a new game (easy to test).

B. Did you reinstall the game then copy over the files or only copy over the files?

C. Do you use Wrye Bash? If so check the save game tab and try get the saves near purple.Make sure right save game profile.

D. Did you back up your ini? If so - maybe regenerate it.