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I am worried now about hairs in skyrim, i wish to see long hairs, and by long i don't mean down to my shoulders, i want that length slider to give me an option to go down from my shoulders all the way down to my waist, and if you can then damn it all the way down to the ground! now that we have animated hairs... there shouldn't be a limit for the hair length, ever seen Tangled? that princess movie, not my kind of movie but... HAIR!!! long fabulous hair!!! you know what i mean this same thing applies to beards! and this is not unreallistic in any way, i've seen a man with a beard down to the ground, i've also seen a man, a man mind you not a woman! with hair all the way down to his kneecaps! (IN A BUS!!)

Now from hair to Age, the Age slider was all fine in oblivion, except for the limit you could only play someone who was like lets say 35-70 years old in oblivion. not cool, i couldn't help to think but "come on i want to be 18! not 30! this is a fantasy world for crying out loud why do i have to be an old man!" so thats why i just downloaded custom races andhttp://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577790739791751000/F57AAB68A8A133EA8A074605E1B0D1D3FB843E8B/! not bad is she ? this is the battlespire dark elf race from the http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29103
Same deal with fallout 3 i wanted to look younger... maybe not THAT young but... http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11215
On to my point, what i want here is as i said before, the Age Slider in oblivion was all a great idea but not the age limit. so here i was suggesting maybe a button that selects the Age Category would be nice, something to put above the age slider, Age Categories should be "Child" (7-12) "Young-advlt" (13-19) "advlt" (20-35) "Older advlt" (36-59) "Elder" (60-1000 if you happen to be an old elf) now about the Child and Young-advlt thingy, that would be hard to implement into the lore but don't you think it'd be awesome if they could implement gameplay so that you could play as a child, the world knows you're a child and the npcs treat you as one. however if this is too much to ask, just make it from "Young-advlt" to "Elder" that shouldn't be too hard, the most they'd have to do would be replace the word "man" with "kid" and replace the word "man" with "grandpa" that way i can play anything from this here http://www.eric-tesol.com/images/odin_2.jpg to this here http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs31/f/2008/220/2/3/SEGA__s_VIKING___Hel_by_michaelkutsche.jpg even if she's a little bit uhm.. "Cold" then she's more attractive than Odin or maybe even this http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/3DVF/speedpaint/Freyja-d%E9esse-godess-revoy.jpg here or i could play some 7 year old brutalizer if they go with the child gameplay!


Default Faces ! in oblivion the default faces were pretty good, but not great. in Skyrim i would like to see a default face that looks really damn nice, so i can just choose my character race, hairstyle, body size and go play! no face troubles anymore! in addition with the "Age Category" button then a preset for each age category would be nice.

Hair color was pretty fine in Oblivion but Hair styles were very lacking, same goes for Morrowind, i had to download mod packs caleld http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4431 and http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15568


Our favourite button, the Ugly button (randomize face), keep it in the game please ^^ every 1/100 times it gives us a pretty nice face! my http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577790739791751000/F57AAB68A8A133EA8A074605E1B0D1D3FB843E8B/ was made this way and you can see what i mean with hair styles, thats i think from something called saram, i can't really remember, maybe its the corean one!

Voice, last but not least, VOICE! i want to be able to pitch my voice around and stuff like that, you can see an example in http://www.andriasang.com/blog/2009/07/18/soul_calibur_edit_mode/2132385862.jpg (yes i was unable to find the english version of it) but in that game u can change the voice of your char to sound like an old man down to sounding like a newborn baby with a wet diaper! if this is asking too much at least let us select a voice set, i know the PC doesn't talk much but it does say ouch! i used http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13691 mod for cute little anime girl sounds for all female races in combat, unfortunately tho i couldn't play an old woman with this on!


I could mention a lot more but i rest my case, this will do

In my humble opinion - being able to change hairstyles on the fly would be nice. Instead of offering a ponytail hairdo, off a generic long hairdo and let the player tie it up on the fly.

My characters tend to have neck-length hair, and it would seem to me advantageous to be able to tie it out of my way. Even more so if hair gets in the way in first person.

I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.

That's all. How my character looks like is not important to me. It's not like I go in 100x zoom close-up on my face all the time I play. How often do you see how your character's face look like anyway? When you scroll around in 3rd person view, or when you zoom the face in the inventory? (If that's now even possible).

My point is. I don't care. It's not a big deal for me. Bigger deals are things you notice much much more. Like graphics, the environment, how NPCs look, how armors and weapons look, how creatures look, etc etc. That is something I see constantly. And that is why I don't care.

I would like to choose a voice set. And dear god let there be decent male hairs.

This is a Western RPG, where men are men and the women are glad of it. If you want to play as a smooth-skinned, wide-eyed, angsty teen, play something from Japan.

Plus allowing young player characters makes it too easy for loli from the get-go. Stuff like http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577790739791751000/F57AAB68A8A133EA8A074605E1B0D1D3FB843E8B/? No no no no no no. NO.


We don't know anything about beard length or hair length, but varying lengths is contingent upon whether or not it animates realistically and separately from the motions of your character. If it's a rigid thing, don't count on having your beard reaching the floor, except through mods.


They've already said the faces are going to be much nicer, less ugly and more realistic.

Faces r gonna be nice but default faces.. what about them ? and as you said about that loli, remember this is only a suggestion ^^ :celebration:

More faces, shoulder length hair, better hair for both genders, and I don't really care about the voices

If we can alter the hair length then we should be able to alter the Khajit and Argonian tail length ! Imagine strolling through town with a five foot tail....or with just a nub of a tail....hey it could have been hacked off some time in your past or maybe your lizard clan believes the tail should be removed at birth for some strange religious, etc belief.

All I want to see is more realistic and varied hair styles and maybe a slightly more feminine voice for female characters.

More options=good.

Less pointless grunting from both men and women. Some I get, but I don't want to hear the strain EVERY time. Nitpicky, I know, and not that big a deal. Just thought of it on this topic.

To be fair to the original poster, ES is set in an ancient world setting. In such times, your manhood tended to begin in what are now considered "teens" Lots of young men were farming from dawn till dusk or out on a battlefield by the time they were in their teens. And it was standard for a young woman to be married between the ages of about 14 and 20. Note, one of the major lore characters in the Oblivion in game books is a bride by about 17, and one of the major protaganists in the first Elder Scrolls novel is also that age. . . so there is a ton of precedent for characters of significane i nthe world to fit into the young advlt category. And Elves tend to be smooth faced and young for centuries, so. . . No need to poop on the originalposter's parade.

Would be nice if you could change the voice. I mean if you play as a spindly mage it's a bit out of place to hear a big brutish nord voice when fighting melee.

the problem with long hair is the clipping, thats why i never use pony tails in my characters in elder scrolls IV

Not everyone wants to play a gruff manly man endowed with a mead soaked beard.

Whereas one of my most common types of mods to download is improved character appearance stuff. And, yeah.... I go into 3rd person and zoom around alot. Take screenshots, use pose mods, etc. Spend lots of time on the facegen sliders in OB/FO3/etc. Gotta look good! (I also tend to pick my armor, even just the vanilla game stuff, on appearance over stats. I've never used Power Armor in FO3 or FO:NV because it's ugly as heck, for example. :celebration: )


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As to the OP, re: long hair

Unless the hair includes some sort of draping-cloth-physics thing, I'm really not a fan of it (there've been long hair styles in some of the hair packs I installed for OB/FO3). The massive clipping that the long hair ends up doing is incredibly annoying, so I stick with short hairstyles. Short hair also seems to make more sense for an active-warrior type.

(As for young.... you can get decently youthful looking in OB/FO3. I've seen the Shojo mods, but they don't seem to make much sense to me. But that's the great thing about mods - you can ignore the ones that you don't think fit the game. Anthropomorphic foxes armed with assault rifles & lightsabers in Oblivion, for example. )

With regards to the age thing; I think that playing a child (7-15) is silly. How the hell could a 4 foot pre-adolescent boy/girl kill dragons and unify an ancient country? Even by fantasy standards that's stupid. 16 onwards is fine by me; as by then people are generally (more or less) fully grown in all areas apart from hair - which is aesthetic really - and could make for interesting thief characters.

I don't think hair will be much longer than the shoulders really, but would welcome it being at the waist - no idea about beards though. Would love to see animated hair.

Been mentioned before but I think the sliders have made way for a mix n' match of preset features - kind of like in the Sims if I understand correctly.

I like the idea of the age options (but with children unplayable) I can see how it could be implemented well.

Good poll I think :celebration:

It svcks not being able to have truly long hair down to my waist in the game sometimes. And especially as a female, because historically, most women wore their hair long, even if swept up...

Of course they don't. I have enough experience playing one in RL, that's why I usually play an Argonian.

^ This.


The women in Oblivion sounded like pre-op trannies... just saying.

Sheesh man. Talk about poll options.
I don't care for all of them.

I don't have anything against young characters per se. What I'm against is the slippery slope of anime influence on TES. You can deny that the presence of young characters by itself has anything to do with anime, but the young-character-becomes-warrior-hero is a classic anime trope.

It's not impossible, but entirely unrealistic that a 16 year old would have the strength and endurance (not to mention the training) to overcome a warrior in their mid-20s, especially (and call me a misogynist) a female 16 year old. Of course, you may say it's only a game and you pay for it so you can have fun, not for realism. However, the reason I play TES is for my gritty dose of RPG realism, and I do not appreciate any sacrifice of said realism for more "fun". YMMV, but that's the way I roll.

So if young characters were added, which actually looked like real young people (not like http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577790739791751000/F57AAB68A8A133EA8A074605E1B0D1D3FB843E8B/) and were stat crippled until they became "older", then I would happily accept them as playable characters.

Well some things thats worries you seems modable.
Hairs seems will be like in Fallout 3 and maybe have more separate bones for rigging or rigged to standard ones, no cloth or hair simulation trough,
interesting alpha channel bug still present in game?
About age slider, I believe Skyrim will have children's as unplayable race, so its also modable, we can roleplay Orkey curse events.
I believe play an old man will also possible.
Diverse voices thats really nice to be in Skyrim, and seems thats will be implemented
Voice presets will be nice to hear/see in game at last have mods similar to this one
Oblivion Sound Sets
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12588
My Voice Extender
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29067
But also there must be option to play silent.
I have different question,
Will be shared human head used again?
or there will be different base head meshes for different humanoid races with better racial features?
Will new heads have better topology and higher polycount, high resolution textures for faces?
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/20166-1-1280968227.jpg
Seams between neck and body will be again in game?
Skin tone changed or for example can Dunmers become again blue instead of ash grey?
Will be in Skyrim face morphs like Oblivion?
Will be there features like eyelashes and whiskers?