Can't get Visually Enchanted Soultrap (fixed) esp to deactiv : IV

» Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:08 am

(new and improved edited OP...)

It is part of http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8490.

I have the other plugins deactivated and imported in graphics, with those three having entries in the Merge section
of the bashed patch, but they are in the import section checked. It has the same Deactivate, Graphics tags as the other 3 plugins.

The Soultrap esp does not appear in the merge section but is in the import graphics section and is checked.

Everytime I build the patch with it unchecked in the mod tab, it becomes checked with the red line highlight.

Before bashed patch rebuild (tags are just like the 3 above it: Deactivate, Graphics, but the prior 3 plugins of the mod are listed in the merge section whereas this one is not.):

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/brygdom/Oblivion/2cc11a39.jpg

After bashed patch rebuild, not activating it, only importing in Import Graphics section, since it is not listed in Merge:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e7/brygdom/Oblivion/62ce970d.jpg

I have tried having the other three merged and imported, only imported and not merged, but the Soultrap one still winds up with the activated checkbox in the Mods tab.

Spoiler

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» Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:04 am

bump...hours later and after seemingly fixing my save-crash problem, I tried to reinstall this and it still has the red line.
It will not stay deactivated. I leave it unchecked, check the import graphics option, rebuild, and it is checked.
If I uncheck it then it deactivates all the other plugins of this mod, and deactivates the bashed patch.

This is what I get when I right click and Mark Mergable:

Not Mergeable
? Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp:

New record(s) in block(s): EFSH.

Is a master of non-mergeable mod(s): Bashed Patch, 0.esp.

» Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:21 am

Another wrye bash question!

Yeah that readme is so vague isn't it - the mods tab section should really say why a line is red.

» Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:13 am

To be expected from you...

Like I said in the other thread, I read this stuff but it isn't always clear or helpful:

Line Colors

? Pink: A file that shares a modification date/time with another file. Not a problem unless they're both activated, in which case, the lines turn...

? Orange: Exclusion group violation. See Exclusion Groups below.

? Red:

? A file that shares a modification date/time with another file – with both files being activated. This should definitely be corrected! Use details view to change the modification date of one of the files by a second or more.

? An active file that has the 'Deactivate' tag. The file should be deactivated to function properly.

? Grey: A file that is ghosted (see Auto-Ghost)

1. It is quite obvious looking at the mods tab that the mod before and after have different dates/times.

2. How many times do I have to say that it will NOT stay deactivated? I leave it unchecked and it becomes checked. It has no merge tag so it isn't listed in the merge section.
It is listed in the import section. I never figured this to be a WB issue, but a mod issue.

In any case I will repost in the WB thread http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1114316-relz-wrye-bash-thread-50/page__hl__relz%20wrye%20bash for the anol retentive population.

» Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:23 pm

Why is it I'm labeled with an antiquated Freudian complex just for pointing out that you do not use the forum as it is used by most forum users.

Do you really think that if a person who actually wants to use the search function wants to stumble upon countless threads that ask questions that really ought to be asked in the in the main threads? Do you really think it makes searching for answers easier? Further, do you really think that the caretakers of overhaul mods or Bash or anything else read the entire forum? I can tell you from experience they do not - many read their specific forum (the reason they created it was for feedback after all) why should these folks be expected to search the forum for questions about their mods or tools when they already created a thread for it?

So I ask who is being disrespectful here?

You want help but then you don't go to the source for help.

Now regarding he red line - I can point out more obfuscation - the image you linked showing the line red cuts off before one can see the esp below it which means that if one, like myself, knew the red line ordeal and could not see the next esp - they are going assume that the next esp (again not shown) is the same date as the one you point out.