[RELz] Better Blocking : IV - Oblivion

» Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:05 pm

Hi there I've started using your mod and i've got an issue that i hope you can help me with.

The problem is the fatigue drain at the moment you lift your weapon to block. It's seems just too much for me (15 p of fatigue) and the worst thing is that i can't change it anyhow.
Tried the ini no luck even tried the scripts, no luck with that too it seems that the itemliftfatiguebase is somehow stuck at 15 p and i can't do anything to change that.
Help would be aprieciated.

» Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:16 pm

Great mod, are there any planned updates for compatibility with uncapped mods?

» Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:05 am

Hi there I've started using your mod and i've got an issue that i hope you can help me with.

The problem is the fatigue drain at the moment you lift your weapon to block. It's seems just too much for me (15 p of fatigue) and the worst thing is that i can't change it anyhow.
Tried the ini no luck even tried the scripts, no luck with that too it seems that the itemliftfatiguebase is somehow stuck at 15 p and i can't do anything to change that.
Help would be aprieciated.

Seconded.

I confirmed in the console that BetterBlocking.ini initializes, I disabled other mods that could conceivably conflict, and I even tried loading absolutely last. All for naught. Regardless of any changes made to the ini, blocking costs 15 fatigue. It also appears that the weight of the shield/weapon isn't factored into anything, though I could be mistaken on this point.

For what it's worth, I noticed in Wrye Bash that the esp's description states it to be "Version 1," despite the package being "Version 2." Perhaps this is just an irrelevant oversight, or did the version 1 esp accidentally get packaged into version 2?

I hope this can all be resolved because I really like the idea behind this mod!

Here's my load order:

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Update: As best as I can tell, aaaBetterBlockingQuestScript loads the line "Set itemLiftFatigueBase to 15 ; default value" and ignores any other data fed to it. I changed this value to 50 as a test, and sure enough every block attempt ate up exactly 50 fatigue.

» Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:12 am

FYI: A year later, I've confirmed that v2 is full of bugs, including the embarrassing fact that the INI file doesn't work at all.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27947, and new thread started http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1116504-relz-better-blocking/.