This is a deer in Oblivion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsCHSXqNsxM The guy says it's not running away, but it clearly is, since he's still not sneaking, so it can detect him.

This is a real deer, running for fun, unless there's something I can'tsee frightenign it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WskPDhUJ_Ho I can't find any right now, but I've seen video before, think it was in a nature documentary, which had deer running much faster as well.

He meant if the deer had two broken front legs.

He was invisible, but I don't think that changes anything. Deer run the same speed in oblivion under all conditions I think. But outside of that, it looked roughly the same as the real life video, it might be a bit more springy but the speeds seemed roughly the same. It might be a bit slower, but it did not seem significant to me. I'll admit I have crap observation skills though so I might be missing the disparity.

When my Orc can jump 20 ft in the air and run 60 MPH while wearing heavy armor the game feels silly and boring. I do not mind being more powerful than any human could be, but being 10x more powerful is just stupid, especially when all the critters in the game are about equal to their real world counterparts. I would also like to see pack and herd animals traveling in groups... no more lone wolf BS.

I think it's pretty obvious that Bethesda is trying to make a realistic world + high fantasy elements. All things known to Earth should be like Earth, its the added elements that should be "unrealistic". Deer should be like real deer, running humans should be like real running humans.

Jumping in late, none the less..

I think we are actually going to see Slower gameplay in a respect, yet fast in others. From the trailer video what I found especially telling was the scene in which the Archer targets the Wolf/Dog, who runs to the left and turns towards the player as he draws a bow - that animal was not Fast at all, in fact I found him to be running slower than OB animals. Again same thing with the skeleton scene in which the skeletal warrior makes a spell jesture with his axe at the player - again not fast BUT, the weapon swing animations do seem to run at full speed. It's almost as if the player is moving at full speed but the NPCs were not.

I may be seeing things, but I after watching the trailer 1703874198307419837409817713874 times (+/- 108374108374013), I even began to see the townies walking about/moving slower than I remember in OB. This however could be deceptive, or just my neurons running at 4 times speed over excitement about the game (very possible). All in all though the player animations seem to run nice and fast, but the animals/NPCs were not.

I honestly think it's too soon to say for sure, but this is what I saw..

Yup. agreed.

Thanks for the excuse to watch the trailer again. And yes you are right everything outside of attacks seemed to be moving slower than oblivion. Not sure if that is how it will be or is, or if it is some dramatic slow mo for a trailer or whatever. But it did look a bit slower.

Cool, I'm not totally and completely insane (I think?).

Your right too, it could be reduced speed for the trailer... really hard to say at this point, but I Don't think we will see the same speed/flow as we saw in OB or Fo3.

The deer in the real life video definitely looked a bit faster to me. I know he was invisible, but without sneaking, they would still make noise, and it was clear from the path it was taking that the deer was trying to escape. And yes, they do move the same regardless, but I just mentioned that it was escaping in case someone said "No, it's just moving normally, obviously it's faster when fleeing" or something.

Being faster than animals is a great plus when I'm the hunted. Or have horse as an evasion technique.
Too fast animals make them look pretty bad when FPS is suffering.
Too fast animals in FONV (cazadores) makes them impossible to hit outside VATS (again due FPS).

However deer and some other animals should have increase smelling, triggering their escape mechanism from further away just to add to the thrill of the hunt itself, which is now too easy. Or even better, add wind to the equation, bringing tactics to the hunt.

A sad life indeed...

+1

Either that was three-legged deer with balance disorder or Pyro is the fastest man on the planet.

Or he is Khajit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APrBdP0bBJM

The deer you were chassing was just playing with you i think........Just out of interest did it keep stopping turn its head to you and stick out its tongue at you until you were close and then start running again while it waggled its butt at you

I think deer can run at around 20-30 mph so i think you are talking Deer...............no that should be bull.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004737.html
Reindeer 32.00 mph / 51.4 kmh
White-tailed deer 30.00 mph / 48.2 kmh
Human 27.89 mph / 44.8 kmh

that slow canine in the trailer bothered me too. i hope they slowed him down but the bow drawing didnt seem slow to me.

also, in OB i think a mod could be made that gave animals different speeds depending on whether the were being chased, just travelling or whatever. could be more trouble than its worth though

They should be faster. On a side note, I was hunting with a friend of mine and his dad and my friend missed while shooting an arrow at a deer and the deer started running away and his dad popped out from behind a tree and tackled the deer into another tree and stabbed it to death. It was the most bad-ass thing ever haha

if you want to hunt deer then you have to either have magic skill or archery skill.......if your a pure melee character then you are out of luck and that is how it should be. it would be nice if bethesda implemented traps that you could lay down at spawn points and you could come back later on and find deer or other wildlife caught in them.

as for run speed..............it was ridiculously over the top in oblivion just like the insanely stupid swim speed. i ended up slowing both of them down and it made a huge improvement. people do not run 40 mph at a sprint much less a constant run. thats just stupid.

I hope we get to see another crazy elf lady chasing deer.

hide in da bushes and when it comes by attack than ya get fresh meat :laugh:

More believable animals = more reasons to play ranger type characters by posing a challenge in hunting and really gives it the value and appreciation it deserves.

Punching deer to death is something that made me laugh to my tears every time I did it. XD
Still, that feat should be possible in my opinion even in Skyrim, but only in case you maxed out everything that gives you movement speed and probably even use some items that will further improve your speed in order to catch up to a deer and punch him in his face.
The point is, only the fastest of the fastest should be able to do that.