I use XP and will not switch to any other Windows OS until really pushed.
XP has a large install base, is a lot leaner and faster than 7.

Thats just a stupid quote. Some businesses still use windows 2000, does that mean that windows 2000 is better than xp? No, its because of a cost issue. If business software still runs on an older operating system, then most of the time a business will not upgrade unless they need the new functionality of a newer OS. So Cost is the reason, not performance, its not a free upgrade for anyone and they can just chose the one they think is best.

thats right but doesent matter, there are so many dx9 games (including two year old fallout 3 with the same engine!!!) without any problems with w7 x64!
i only have two dx10 games and one dx11 game, ALL other games on my w7 x64 system are dx9 and i can play them all perfect without any problems.

again, it's NOT the engine, fallout 3 with the same engine is running fine with my w7 x64, obsidian or/and bethesda has made some major mistakes with new vegas, thats all.

Win7 is soooooooooooooo much better than xp? really? lmao.

Next in line: Windows Norris.

It's true!

I am still waiting on windows 4.

As a gamer I will not use anything other than windows XP SP3. Windows XP is going to be fully supported by Microsoft ( A.K.A Microshaft ) until at leat 2015 and maybe as high as 2020. This is because many microsoft OS users have continued to use XP because of its reliablity and compatibility. It has less issues than Vista and Windows 7 and requires less resources . Microsoft has even reported that many of its windows 7 users have downgraded back to XP.

As a Gamer, I could not think of using anything else, other than XP.

You would think that Microsoft would at least have a full blown XP emulation (Not just compatibility mode) or Gamers mode in their newer OS's by now.

I can't understand how people can claim that Win 7 works fine with FO3 and Oblivion. It's just as bad for me if not worse when running those games. It does seem that Bethesda or Obsidian did some small amount of improvement since FO3, at least from my side, when it comes to Windows 7 compatibility. That said, New Vegas is still buggier than Oblivion was on release, which is quite an achievement. Didn't play FO3 at release so I wouldn't know about that, but since I had to mess with the GOTY edition for a month or so before it would run reliably, I'm guessing release wasn't great for that either.

This thread seems to be a troll magnet.

Having used windows 3,3.1,3.11,etc,windows 95a,b,c,98/98se,2000,xp sp1, 2 and 3.Windows xp x64 and windows 7 x64.. (I gave vista a week.. it just ran like a paraplegic dog).

I can say this:

A well optimized os is my os of choice.. with windows it means not installing much onto a system due to the nature or how windows in designed.

Technologicly speaking windows 7 x64 adds way toomany features for modern hardware over xp x64 etc. (Improved threadding,memory management,ability to nicely work with large data volumes, system restore/back up actually built into the os is nice and a range of other things).

Win 7 is a worthy upgrade if you have a pc of the last 2 years..

I personally have run it on 3 diffrent pc's

a Q6600 with 8gb ram. an i7 920 with 12gb ram and an amd 1090t (6core) with 8gb ram.

I would not run xp on a pc with more than 4gb ram as I didn't notice much diffrence.

If you look through the revision dates on some of the dll's of the game you will see some of them have not been touched/updated since 2008.. this says to me either they just havn't botherd to optimize some things or the optimizations they have made arn't across the board in their engine. who knows. I'm not about to pull it apart and see.

also they shipped an old direct x version with this game via steam (I assume the same happned on the dvd?)

all I can say is Hmm and lol at the know nothing trolls.

Next I'll see some one say it runs better in wine on an awesome spark that cost him $10k.

(yeh my systems probly cost me like .. 2k each or somthing? but cost means nothing..)

The fact that software companys actually know that a good %5 of their customers will have issues with thier software is a known fact.. unfortunately if you happen to be part of that %5 then it svcks to be you or me as I'm getting npc slow downs etc as well.

Best thing any software company can do is update their support pages every day or two with somthing.. Borderlol(ands) took a few weeks to realise this was a bad pr choice and quickly rectified that.

I'm seeing a little communication from obsidian/bethesda with the bug threads still needing to be stickied.

I'm tempted to install an vm of xp and see if it runs quicker on that lol.

but really. people who post with "omg you svck coz you run windows 7 boohoohoo you should not expect a working game" really miss the point. If a product is advertised as working with a certain operating system then it should be expected to run with only a little performance diffrence.. not 30% or more.

Worst case scenario I've seen is about a 5% performance diffrence between 7 x64 and xp x32 due to thunking on most games.

Err, what? Windows 7 is basically Windows Vista SP2 + TRIM support...

The amount of mundane, inaccurate comments in this thread is baffling. The DLL fix worked for me. It works for many people. It won't work for anyone on XP because XP doesn't support either the DirectX 10 or 11 API. The FaceGen seems to be based off your operating system's API as well as what your GPU supports. Cut one of those two out? Then the DLL fix is worthless.

I really don't understand how such a major issue would have gotten past QA, but really, who am I to say anything? I have no clue what motivations Bethesda had, aside from turning up a profit. I don't know what the game was developed on. Neither do you. Assumptions aren't facts. The game runs smoothly for me after I spent quite a bit of time tweaking it; I'd love to see this experience possible right out of the box. Gamebryo's been a frustrating engine since I first used it back in the Oblivion days. That hasn't changed, but I'm not going to start blaming Bethesda for only supporting XP. That's just preposterous.

Windows 7 is actually a huge step above Windows XP, especially if you're using any system that's at least semi-modern. Windows 7 supports TRIM, making it very appealing to SSD owners, it handles additional cores/threads substantially better than WinXP, its memory management is quite good (and no, just because something uses more RAM doesn't mean it's inefficient), and it allows a GPU-accelerated interface. Not to mention, Windows 7 x86_64 is widely-supported; I can't say the same about XP. If you want 4 or more gigabytes of RAM, you want a 64-bit operating system.



Because it saves them money. In a business, you want all computers running the same operating system to ensure maximum compatibility. Migrating every system to a new OS would be costly, and possibly time-consuming if their software hasn't been updated in a while.

Fortunately, the average home user and game player isn't bogged down by what OS businesses are running. We only have to pay for one license normally. The systems have different uses. A comparison like the one you stated should never be made.

I don't know what you mean. I run XP and I am lucky if I get to play for ten mins before either the game shuts down, gives an error, or reboots my computer. In steam it says i have played for 9 hours, but in that time, i have only just got to Primm. I even tryed buying a new nvidia GT220 video card to try and fix the problem. I was using a nvidia 7600. It made no diff. I can hardly wait for the patches to start rolling out. Oh well, untill then, i guess i will either keep trying to play, or put the game aside for a while. :brokencomputer: :facepalm: :banghead:

Steam statistics don't think the same.
Currently, XP users (32 bits and 64 bits combined) are 27.32% of the total, while Windows 7 users are 45.18% of the total. Considering Windows Vista is the same technological generation of Windows 7, we can add Vista percentage to Windows 7 users: this brings the total of the Windows 7 / Vista users to a whopping 67.51%

No, Windows XP is not the dominant OS. Windows XP is dead and its use is falling harder every month. And gamers are not enterprise users.

Quoted for total agreement. I run Windows 7 64x, have a Geforce GTX 480, and dual quad core Cpu's. Fallout 3 runs like a dream, 60fps everywhere, no matter how many enemies or NPCs. Fallout New Vegas, on the other hand, is a choppy mess. Never have I seen a game that has such a wide discrepancy in framrates. Some areas you'll get a very smooth 60fps, other areas you're lucky to pull over 20. Anywhere where ghouls are present, in particular, is lag city. Interiors are the worst. Several interior locations seem to have this "cloud" of bad framerates, where you'll get horrible choppy fps, no matter what you do, or what level of complexity is in your camera view (you'll get a terrible framerate pressed against the wall and strafing, this shouldn't be the case...). It doesn't matter if I drop every setting to it's lowest or kill every actor, or install mysterious .dll files, nothing works to make the game run smoothly in these cursed interior areas.

What makes it even less bearable is that nearly identical locations, in some instances using the same exact geometry and textures from FO3, will run horribly in New Vegas. I can forgive them for recycling the same exact assets from a previous game, like the ubiquitous "pipes running along the ceiling" hallway pieces that are everywhere, and then charging me full price for a "new" game, but I do expect the game to run these assets at least AS WELL as the game's predecessor using the same exact machine and OS. Maybe if FOV was some huge step forward graphically, I'd be more accepting of bugs and lag, but this game looks identical to FO3 for crying out loud...I agree with the original poster, there's really no excuse for this kind of shoddy performance. I feel ripped off.

Well, statistics being what they are, here is a link that shows XP at 45% and Vista/7 at about the same combined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

However this discussion is more about OS's than about Fallout New Vegas, so it is off topic for this section of the boards.