Ok... jeez... embarrassed... how do I install Oblivion?

Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:52 pm

I want to install Oblivion and all the add-on material including Knights Of The Nine and all the DLC, and patch the whole thing both Official and Un-Official. And I am somewhat puzzled as I have seen several versions of the best way to go about this process, and I get the impression that you can actually do this wrong. So, sorry, but I have to ask.

Ok, obviously, I install Oblivion first. Then, what do I install next? Or in what order?

1. Knights of the Nine
2. The DLC Content
3. Shivering Isles

Then, there are the Official Patches, same question. I think I just run the final Official Shivering Isles patch once everything is installed, but I'm not sure.

As for the Unofficial Patches, do I just install them all in order, or what? I have also seen several variations on some of the Un-Official patches, or fixes maybe, so I want to make sure I apply those correctly as well. Again, there are several different answers to this question depending on where you're looking. Apparently there are also un-official patches for the DLC content. I was curious about the DLC also, apparently it needs to be cleaned?

I hope this isn't as embarrassing to answer as it was to ask. So. This was my "How Do I Install The Game?" question. I do really appreciate the help. And now I will feel mildly ashamed and await your various replies. Please be kind.
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April
 
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:29 pm

I do it in this order:

1. Oblivion
2. Shivering isles
3. Official shivering isles patch 1.214
4. Knights
5. DLC
6. UOP 3.2.0
7. USIP 1.4...
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Marcus Jordan
 
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:12 pm

Install Oblivion itself, then the official expansion/DLC (order of those does not matter at all), then the official patch, then the unofficial patch. I don't understand what you mean though by unofficial patches, since there's only one as far as I know.
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:57 pm

I don't understand what you mean though by unofficial patches, since there's only one as far as I know.


Unofficial Oblivion patch and Unofficial Shivering isles patch
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:42 pm

Unofficial Oblivion patch and Unofficial Shivering isles patch

And the Unofficial Official Mods Patches ;)
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:25 pm

And the Unofficial Official Mods Patches ;)


Of course, forgot that one.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:02 am

lol, and this is my point... what about this one?

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9969

I mean, seriously, there actuallyis an Unofficial Official Mods Patch. It's enough to make your head explode.

Any ideas as far as where I install this? This is the forum thread, make a clicky http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=851575

You think this is a goofy thread, and then you get into a little ways and all of a sudden you're trapped in a vortex of mystery!
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:34 pm

and then the http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710...
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:00 am

Any ideas as far as where I install this?


Do you mean in which order? Doesn't really matter as the DLC's store their resources in bsa's and the patches have them loose in meshes etc. folders.
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:20 pm

And if you have GOTY (game of the year) Edition, you don't need to official patch.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:13 am

Okay, I can see you're having a bit of difficulty. Basically:

Unofficial Patch - An unofficial patch that fixes alot of things about the main game that wasn't fixed in the last official patch.
Unofficial Oblivion Patch Supplemental - A set of fixes that are are being updated to compliment the Unofficial Patch after work stopped on it.
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch - Same as above just fixes Shivering Isles specific bugs.
Unofficial Official Mods Patch - Same as above, but contains fixes specific to the Official DLCs.

So install them something like so:

Oblivion
Shivering Isles
1.2.0416 Patch (If you haven't got the GOTY edition)
Knights of the Nine
Official DLC
Unofficial Oblivion Patch
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch
Unofficial Oblivion Patch Supplimental
Unofficial Official Mods Patch
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:16 am

Crap, I literally just posted what you just wrote, except in the form of a question. That's what I needed!

THANK YOU. I appreciate your time and expertise.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:50 am

I had a related question regarding the DLC and the install.

I have often heard that there are major problems with the Knights Of The Nine, and all the Downloadable Content. So much so that there are modders who have recommended to me that I don't even install it. I am trying to remember but I'm not sure, I seem to recall all of the DLC needed to be "Cleaned", I think that's the term. Not sure what that is or how to do it, but I'll cross that bridge next.

During the install I am adding a patch specifically for the DLC - The Unofficial Official Mods Patch. Does that fix the problems with the DLC modules? Or do I need to install the DLC, patch the DLC, and then "clean" the DLC? Or... do I install, clean, and then patch?

I'm sorry I'm beating this to a pulp, but I am going to figure out all of this mod stuff once and for all, and I'm going to start with learning how to get a proper installation. Again, I appreciate all of the help.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:12 am

The DLC's still need to be cleaned. Follow the process that says to use TES4Edit http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide. There is an update to the UOMP in the works - see this http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1116054-relz-unofficial-oblivion-patch-320-supplemental-v3-3-patches-uomp-knights-relz/. It will cover more than just KotN.

I suggest having a look at Tomlong's installation guide http://www.tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=installing_mods. Don't get overwhelmed though - start small and work your way up. Trying to read all this material at once will just drive you crazy! Pick whatever installation method you are comfortable with. Many people recommend BAIN but I still use OBMM. I might switch to BAIN at some point, but I found it rather complicated! You may even want to stick to installing mods manually until you're comfortable with the process. That's ok for simple ones.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:22 am

Don't feel bad...it took me YEARS to understand load order of mods.
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:18 pm

Don't feel bad...it took me YEARS to understand load order of mods.


I find load order is easily handled by BOSS :) It's installation order that still takes days... I have a lot of mods that overwrite each other and I have to install them in a very precise order to get them all working the way I want. The main culprits for me are horse mods (including armour) and books - nice covers and placement. I can write out the order for those if the OP is interested. Not even Tomlong lists those details...
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:39 am

Woah, thanks for all the help. I'll hit those links. I vaguely remembered something about this topic, not even enough to describe it correctly really, and I come here and *boom* - I have an answer in about 10 minutes. Thanks all.
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Post » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:43 pm

I find load order is easily handled by BOSS :) It's installation order that still takes days... I have a lot of mods that overwrite each other and I have to install them in a very precise order to get them all working the way I want. The main culprits for me are horse mods (including armour) and books - nice covers and placement. I can write out the order for those if the OP is interested. Not even Tomlong lists those details...


Yes please, that would be helpful :)
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:10 am

Agreed, that would be very good information to have.
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Post » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:18 am

Haha - I figured somebody would take me up on my offer ;) Well since this is an installation thread...

Pretty Books Galore:
I like to run with Book Jackets Oblivion, Better Book Collision and Book Placement. I also have the Spell Tomes DLC, so I also use Grimbot's Spell Tomes. If you don't have the Spell Tomes DLC, don't use Grimbot's! I also use Auto Book Placer, but that can be installed later - it doesn't conflict with any of these. NOTE: this is installation order, not load order. As I said I use BOSS for my load order. Also, most of these are texture and mesh replacers, so there is no plugin!

  • DLC Spell Tomes
  • Book Jackets - Oblivion
  • Grimbot's Spell Tomes
  • RD Better Book Collision
  • ESPless Book Replacer
  • Better Book Collision Patch
  • Book Placement


For Book Placement, you must use BookJackets - BP.esp, not Book Placement V2.esp. Follow this list in order and overwrite the previous with each mod that follows. It's also important to read the readme for these mods - Book Jackets in particular - because there are some options that may require you to copy some files around. I usually unzip these to another directory first and copy the files around, then install from that. This setup will give you nice looking books that can be stacked together tighter than normal. Note that Book Placement doesn't work with Grimbot's - I may fix that at some point. You can install both, but when you click on a spell tome, you won't get the Book Placement menu even if you have cast the spell. The ESPless book replacer replaces all the vanilla textures with the textures from Book Jackets and Grimbot's, so all books will use these textures. I found some things missing from one mod or another, so that's why I load them all. Note that some of these are candidates for being imported into your bashed patch, so you don't necessarily need the plugin. I won't get into importing with Wrye Bash at this point.

Pretty Horses Galore:
I like to run with Slof's Horses. I also have the Horse Armor DLC. I also like to have the Imperial Legion Horses armoured and have the darker colours for that armour, so I use Ulrim's horses to make everthing play nice together and give me the armour on the Legion horses. I have made some fixes to Ulrim's, but Ulrim is still around and has promised an update, so I passed my comments along to him. I mention that because some people have had some issues getting Ulrim's to work, so I suggest you backup your data directory before trying this, in case it doesn't work for you.

  • DLC Horse Armor
  • Slof's Horses
  • ESPless Slof's Horse Replacer
  • MD Saddle Bags (optional - I'm not using currently)
  • Ulrim's Horses


The ESPless Horse Replacer replaces all the vanilla horse textures with Slof's horses, so every horse in the game gets the benefit of Slof's textures. Ulrim's has to be installed last because it detects the other plugins and customizes itself based on what you have installed. So if you start with having MD Saddle Bags installed and then decide to remove it, you will have to re-install Ulrim's. Another note: if you are running Knights of the Nine, then you would install that before installing the horse mods listed above. Ulrim's also has a different version of its plugin if you have KotN.

I believe all of these can be found on TES Nexus. Try searching for the names I've listed - a partial search would probably work better (like searching for horse or horses instead of Slof's Horses). I believe Slof's Horses is listed as Slofs, for example.
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