The CS has an option for "on death" items, such as adding pelts to wolves when killed and such, so they could add it that way if needed too, script unneeded. ( creatures only or NPCs too? at work, can't check.)

also, I am almost sure the Camoran bloodline is dragon's blood, same as the septims. Nothing was even officially stated i think, and the camoran dynasty heir from valenwood, but it could make sense if it was. perhaps the death of mankar and uriel and martin eliminated the last dragonborn lines and heralded the arrival of the dragons further.

one of those things with nothing to officially prove it, or disprove it. Only thing to go by is that the amulet is shown on his person when he has it.

hey, you can wear it too if you remove the script!

Yes, it works for NPC's too.
For instance, you can get multiple Necromancers amulets by ressurecting and killing again the NPC you get it from, Caranya.
Quotes from UESP: "Upon her death in the related quest, the Necromancer's Amulet is added to her corpse (you cannot pickpocket it from her beforehand). " "Without the unofficial patch, it is possible to obtain multiple copies of the Necromancer's Amulet if you reanimate Caranya's corpse then kill her again. "

So it seems all reasons but the developers wanted him to wear the amulet have been disproven or made unlikely.
Interesting

I cant remove scripts alas, Im an xbox player.

hey people discussing mankar is dragonborn, get back to my other topic on that.

I reloaded an old save to read it again.
he says:

The emperor saw the vision of the dragonborn, he saw something in you blablabla.

when I reread I saw that with the vision of the dragonborn he ment uriel's power to see visions. and not how I first read it when I started this topic as, he saw a vision of the dragonborn, and he saw you!

so yr right the champ of cyrodiil is not a dovahkiin, all those poor poor children that will be born on 11/11/11 with TES obsessive parents will be though

Have you played the shivering isles?

yeh so they dont become a deadric lord just fill the place of one
my guess is they just grow another sheogorath, he is a plant after all

Wich is the same thing.
In TES, myth becomes reality rather easily. If you act like a god would in every way, pretty soon you are that god.
Its called mantling.

It goes like this, your character is not in the lore of the game, his story is not written by the games devs at all, well besides the story you play in game but I mean his past. In Skyrim Todd stated in a interview that your character does not know he is a Dragonborn until a major even happens. So your character in Oblivion could have been a Dragonborn too and just didn't know it, that is if thats the story YOU made up for him, because there is nothing that will dispute it. I mean besides, the all the KNOWN Dragonborns in Oblivion died, so who is it that carried out their blood line? Maybe the reason your the gods chosen is because you are a Dragonborn? I don't think it matters if the game ever said that to us or not, if you can tie it into the story and lore, then anything is possible.




Says who? In *MY* story when Martin sacrifices and Dagon fights it out with Akatosh there was such a great surge of magic that caused a temporary tear in time itself. My character does not know he is in the future, he just wakes up back in his home land with only memories of Oblivion. You got to remember that these games are meant for us to role play our characters and to make up their own story, thats the whole reason you start in jails in every game, so you can make up your own history for that character. If they didn't want us to use our imagination then they would force us to play a character they made.

Whaaaat?
They tell the Nerevarine that he/she is dragonborn?
I never thought about that. Could you find the exact source?

A player can imagine that his characters in SK and OB are the same.
However, the game won't force it. Bethesda made it clear that your character's background is left to your own imagination.

i second this. i'm roleplaying that my nord oblivion character woke up in his homeland somehow you've just given me an idea of how that could have happened..

maybe the rift of magic unlocked his inner dragonborn... maybemy character genuinely faield and putting on the amulet (as in physically does it wrong).

when i get my copy its my own bethesda influened story.

i love RPG's

Problem is that I think it's in one of the cut-scenes, which probably means it's Azura saying it. Either that or it's in the conversation with Vivec. But I've long since overwritten the save games and have no idea how to access either the conversation text or the cut scene. However, it was about a month ago I played it so I especially noted that one of the lines greeting my character was something like, "St Neverar returned, Nevareine, Dragonborn!" It blew me away at the time.

One of the prophesies the Dissident Priests give you says the Nerevarine will be Dragonborn. The priests interpret that to mean the Nerevarine is from the Empire; but, what if they're wrong? It could explain the Nerevarine's ability to do things like be cured of corpus, and wear Moon-and-Star. Or maybe not. Who knows?

Er... what?

Sheogorath is not a plant. He is a Daedric Prince.

The question isn't whether or not you actually are Daedric after Shivering Isles (which, given your ability to go back into Cyrodiil, indicates a very strong No, as the Barriers are sealed). The question is does it matter? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and flies like a duck, does it really matter if it's a duck or not?

You have mantled Sheogorath. You ARE Sheogorath.



Indeed, the Prophecy in question is the Lost Prophecy. I quote it here for good measure:


Of course, this could indicate "born under the sign of the Dragon" (i.e., born under the sign of the Septim Empire), rather than the new sense of Dragonborn. Being able to cure corprus could be attributed to Azura. Likewise, it's almost certain that the player is able to wear Moon-and-Star (if he's NOT actually the reincarnation of Nerevar) because it's an artifact of Azura, and she can manipulate it at will.

Umm...no. The Amulet could only be worn by descendants, even symbollic descendants like Tiber Septim. So, not just ANY Dragonborn could wear the Amulet and be emperor. You had to be the descendant of Alessia/Reman/Tiber.

So, Camoran maybe wore it for some other reason. Maybe in Oblivion the details of the Covenant were unmade or some excuse like that.

Imperial propaganda. The Amulet of Kings (Chim-el Adabal) was crafted by the Ayleids.

The enchantment was not though.

Dragonborn could wear it, regardless of their lineage.

Sorry, but Ive never read anything about that. Itd be stupid though, it would mean any idiot who was dragonborn could lit the dragonfires and be emperor. You have to be a Septim.

And yes, it was made by Ayleids...but the oversoul has nothing to do with them.

Who's Bearus?

Rubbish, there's no such thing as an idiot Dragonborn. Really, "any idiot" wouldn't be able to, but only an idiot chosen by the Counsel or Blades could possibly have the clearance to light the fires in the most sacred temple of Cyrodiil.

You don't need to be a Septim, no. Was Reman a Septim? No. Oh, and neither were Alessia or... Mankar Camoran. You need to be dragonborn. This is why the the Dragon Fires must be lit, to prove you're dragonborn.* The Fires do not make the dragonborn, so they are not necessary to wearing the Amulet. The Fires and that "shared blood" shtick came after the Amulet, so only dragonborn could sit in White-Gold. Again, the ritual geas of the Amulet does not make men dragonborn, it makes dragonborn Emperors.

*Or let me put it this way, to prove you are a dragonborn and you wear the real Amulet.