Tamriel mixed races?

Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:28 am

So if a vampire can bone an orc to get an arena champion, you could get a super soldier by getting a werebear to bang a were crocodile. Epic monster. Tricky foreplay.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:07 pm

So if a vampire can bone an orc to get an arena champion, you could get a super soldier by getting a werebear to bang a were crocodile. Epic monster. Tricky foreplay.

I'm almost positive lycanthropes don't work like that.

And there may be some ingame lore to support that view. We have to remember lycanthropes are not the lycans from underworld. They don't have added powers in their regular form. They are completely human/mer/beast or in other words normal. So if they had a kid I don't think there would be any good reason to say the offspring would be anything other than normal.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:35 am

I'm almost positive lycanthropes don't work like that.

And there may be some ingame lore to support that view. We have to remember lycanthropes are not the lycans from underworld. They don't have added powers in their regular form. They are completely human/mer/beast or in other words normal. So if they had a kid I don't think there would be any good reason to say the offspring would be anything other than normal.
They very much have added powers in their regular form. You've been slacking on werebeasts.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:06 am

They very much have added powers in their regular form. You've been slacking on werebeasts.

The real question is whether or not the condition would transfer (seems possible), and whether or not you could hybridize lycanthropy strains. werecroc/werewolf mix could be a good thing or a bad thing, Depends on whether you get an uber killing machine or something so unfortunate it can barely move.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:34 am

It doesn't matter whether its possible for the curse to transfer, it matters how shweet the offspring would be. ManBearPigCrock in Tamriel? Yes plz.

(mostly sarcasm. But really, it would be a whole lot awesomer than an emo half-vampire orc)
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:49 am

It doesn't matter whether its possible for the curse to transfer, it matters how shweet the offspring would be. ManBearPigCrock in Tamriel? Yes plz.

(mostly sarcasm. But really, it would be a whole lot awesomer than an emo half-vampire orc)

Yeah, that Orc should have gone on a killing spree in the arena stands instead of just getting me to assist in his suicide.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:47 am

This is TES breeding, not real life breeding.

All that is known of Racial interbreeding can be summed up in to sentances from the notes on Racial Physiology.
After much anolysis of living specimens, the Council long ago determined that all "races" of elves and humans may mate with each other and bear fertile offspring. Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother, though some traces of the father's race may also be present. It is less clear whether the Argonians and Khajiit are interfertile with both humans and elves.


The offspring MAY be of the fathers race -- although that senario is a rare occurrence -- and usually the child bears some of the traits of the father; IE a redguard-nord might have black hair or brown eyes or that redguard spirit sword thing
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:05 am

His daddy was a vampire, boo hoo. He's a naturally stronger orc that's gray and loved by many spectators. Stupid mer.

Lady N, we can make the manbearpig! We just need to get the werebears from Skyrim and the were boars of High Rock or Daggerfall. Though I think it'll be half man and half bear pig.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:54 pm

It doesn't matter whether its possible for the curse to transfer, it matters how shweet the offspring would be. ManBearPigCrock in Tamriel? Yes plz.

(mostly sarcasm. But really, it would be a whole lot awesomer than an emo half-vampire orc)

Yeah he was a little punk. He completely squandered the gift that was in his body.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:50 pm

The real question is whether or not the condition would transfer (seems possible), and whether or not you could hybridize lycanthropy strains. werecroc/werewolf mix could be a good thing or a bad thing, Depends on whether you get an uber killing machine or something so unfortunate it can barely move.

hybridize? I doubt that very much since that would require catching the disease and then trying to catch it again from another source. I don't think its possible to catch a disease twice. Not while you already have it anyway.

Also isn't there a rule in the very fabric of Nirn that prohibits too much shape-shifting? Hybridizing between the orignal form and two other beast forms sounds like it would push that boundary.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:04 pm

we've been suggesting we get two different were-creatures (bear and croc, for example) and have them breed. Now the next question remains as such, do those infected with lycanthrope need to transform in order to transfer the curse, or can they do it while in their human form? If the former, it's going to be a looooooooooong night. If the latter, easy.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:13 am

Lady N, we can make the manbearpig! We just need to get the werebears from Skyrim and the were boars of High Rock or Daggerfall. Though I think it'll be half man and half bear pig.


It would obviously be a half man bear and half pig.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:55 pm

hybridize? I doubt that very much since that would require catching the disease and then trying to catch it again from another source. I don't think its possible to catch a disease twice. Not while you already have it anyway.


You do realize we're talking about reproduction here? Breeding two different Lycanthropies? The question remains, will the strains be hybridized within the child or not?
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:37 am

There's Heinrich Oakenhull and his wife Hasathil.
Heinrich Oakenhull is a Nord, and Hasathil is a Wood Elf.

Glistel and Malintus Ancrus may or may not be in a relationship.
Glistel is a Dark Elf, and Malintus Ancrus is a Imperial.

I know that apparently Gogan got seduced by the "Sirens" in Anvil. Gogan is a Redguard, and the "Sirens" were an Imperial, a Nord, and a Khajiit. Although I think he mentioned only the Nord Woman and the Imperial Woman.

There's also the book the "Lusty Argonian Maid" where some... interesting things happen between an Argonian Woman and an Imperial Man.

Soris Arenim is in a relationship with Erissare Arenim, Soris Arenim is a Dark Elf, and Erissare Arenim is a High Elf.

Arnora Auria is an Imperial Woman, who's been in a relationship with a Nord Man named Jorundr.

It happens all the time, but when talking about Glistel and Malintus Ancrus, people say the relationship is odd and they don't like the idea. And when discussing Heinrich's and Hasathil's relationship people will say that they'd rather sleep with their horse, or that they suppose Bosmer Women are less annoying than Bosmer Men.

Varon Vamori admits to having a crush on Ardaline. Varon's a Dark Elf, and Ardaline is a High Elf.

Carmen Litte, who's a Redguard, is married to Alberic Litte, who's a Breton.

So Human & Human relationships and Elf & Elf relationships generally get by without too much "public opinion". But when a Human dates a Wood Elf or a Dark Elf people start to show disgust. I'm guessing High Elves are more likely to not want to date out of their race because their families would probably disapprove. Argonians have said in books that they don't like the "wet skin" of Humans and Mer. And I've never heard of a Khajiit dating outside of their race.

Most of the inter-mixing probably goes on between Elves & Elves and Humans & Humans. But the occasional Elf & Human relationship probably happens every once in a while.

Dont forget Barenziah! Her and Tiber Septim had an affair. Read "The Real Barenziah". But if you really want to know about her, then read the *cough* disturbing *cough* Daggerfall version ;S
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:34 am

I've always wondered what we'd get if we mixed a Khajiit and an Argonian. A scaly cat? Or a furry lizard?

I'm not sure if it would be possible to mix Khajiit with anything. The defining factor in a Khajiit birth is the current phase of Masser and Secunda. If it were possible to mix anything with Khajiit, you wouldn't necessarily get a Khajiit seen in Morrowind and Oblivion. Those are Suthay-raht. Many many many forms of Khajiit exist from the more humanoid ones, to smaller house cats and giant, hulking uber-tigers that can be ridden like battle mounts.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:40 pm

In racial phylogeny its sais that Argonians may just be heavily adapted men. Personally I find it unlikely that an (Elder scrolls) human could develop scales and a tail, but its even more unlikely that they are biologically related to the hist (Trees!) or in a simper form:

:frog:
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:08 pm

Not really...only that they appear that way. Here's the quote:
Argonians, like the dreugh, appear to be a semi-aquatic troglophile form of humans, though it is by no means clear whether the Argonians should be classified with dreugh, men, mer, or (in this author's opinion), certain tree-dwelling lizards in Black Marsh.

What this basically concludes is "wtf is an argonian?"

Plus, every creation myth that has argonians mentioned in it keep them separate from men and mer, as if they're just completely something else.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:31 am

Not really...only that they appear that way. Here's the quote:

What this basically concludes is "wtf is an argonian?"

Plus, every creation myth that has argonians mentioned in it keep them separate from men and mer, as if they're just completely something else.

This is very strange. Bethesda managed to connect the other races to either men or mer with the Khajiit being mer, even, but the Argonians... they're still too mysterious.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:44 am

This reader's opinion is that argonians are a product of the Hist, used to be able to interact with the outside races, and give the Hist a weapon to defend itself with.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:21 pm

This reader's opinion is that argonians are a product of the Hist, used to be able to interact with the outside races, and give the Hist a weapon to defend itself with.

I understand, so you think that argonians were created by the hist but are not biologicaly related to them. I suppose the hist were probably tired of the wars between the Ehnolfey and created the argonians or granted sentiance to Black Marsh tree lizards in order to have more sway on the world around them? Let me revise my diagram:

:frog:
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This Means :poke:
(The yellow guy is the hist, the stick is an argonian (kind of like a tool) , and the blue guy is an Ehnolfey)

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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:54 am

Pretty much.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:19 pm

I think little lizards looking for something to eat licked the sap of the Hist one day, and were transformed permanently. It effects Argonians differently than it effects humans, mer, and khajiit, so maybe reptile are just transformed by it. It could be why there are so many types of Argonians, many types of reptiles licked it, which many different results.

Again, this is all just what I'm speculating, I have very little knowledge of Argonian lore.
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Post » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:08 pm

Everyone has very little knowledge of Argonian lore!
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