Really don't mind either way TBH, as long as the dialogue is good and fits the situation I really don't mind if there are swearing or not.

I can imagine the nords having some hefty, inventive insults.

I wouldn't mind if they didn't have swearing every millisecond like a fps that recently came out...


Avoiding some that wouldn't fit quite right or at least make some half-assed excuse would be nice...

Oh sweet christ please no... I would rather they immersion break and have loud bleeps than this garbage. But it doesn't need anything like the F word or really anything more than Oblivion had with damn and things like that.

It will be rated M (at least that is the prediction) so it is possible, but not necessary. I personally could care less either way.

I honestly don't understand that "its fantasy world so they shouldn't use real life profanity" argument. Every other word in TES universe has the same meaning as in ours, so why curses cant ? They didn't use them in past games because they wanted to maintain T rating, but since Skyrim is going to be first TES game developed as M rated game, it would be logical to hear real life swearing there, especially from the Vikings Nords.

Some modern day profanities would fit perfectly fine, I think. Just nothing too modern sounding i.e "By the nine divines, that Fargoth is a tremendous d0uchebag!"

I would like to hear how large your circle of friends is and do you have anything but snob friends ?

These pretty much sum it up for me

Eh, that was pretty cringe-inducing. :shrug:

No, just not among a bunch of fratguys.

TES has its own sort of insults. I think the Dunmer ones are the best. "S'wit"! "fetcher" "n'wah"!

you will buy skyrim regardless because if you do you may find language, but you have already bought the game, your argument is here by invalid.

Closed for a clean up of forum censored word avoidance.

OK, posts deleted and I am going to remind some of you about cursing and swearing on these forums. No matter what the game rating, these forums are 13+ and as such you are expected to conform to forum rules.

Oh, I thought the rule only applied to attempts to display a swear word despite the autocensor, not implied swear words (ie, the beginning letter plus asterisks, which I used). Sorry mods!

I'll re-post my message (sans the rule-breaking) in case anyone wanted to respond.



I think the problem is with modern swear words (or those used in a modern context), not necessarily real life ones. A good example of swearing used well in fantasy is GRRM's A Song of Ice and Fire; the book's full of very strong language, but only ever used in more literal/historical contexts.

Think of starwars you kriffing shutta's

Now come on. Don't tell me that didn't sound offensive =D

I have a good friend at work and the strongest language he ever uses is "Oh my goodness!" I feel badly when I slip and swear around him because I know he does not like it, although if something happens and I get hurt the expletives will be forth coming...heh So you can see that some people just never swear, and perhaps they all live in TES games?

Just what kind of words are you talking about? I'm pretty sure most of our real-world curse words would be meaningless in Tamriel. I wouldn't be surprised if we encountered words like "bastard" or "ass", but only because in a medieval setting those words could be considered extremely harsh and offensive, but calling the local woodelf a "[censored] smuggling [censored] stain, [censored] wad" would be tasteless.

Want to hear a good insult?

Gandalf said to Wormtongue, "the wise speak only of what they know, Gríma son of Gálmód. A witless worm have you become. Therefore be silent, and keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I have not passed through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man till the lightning falls".

Now that’s some harsh language.

I disagree with people saying modern strong language has no place fantasy, used correctly it can really enhance a gritty atmosphere, for example in The Witcher or the ASOIAF books. Not sure how it would feel in TES though.

Swearing should not be a goal itself, but depending on the dialogue context and/or the characters involved, sometimes it makes a big difference! I believe there is cheap strong language in many games (and movies for that matter) that is clearly forced for 'toughness' sake, but I can also think of great dialogue writing with swearing used in good taste and suitable to the characters/atmosphere. One example is The Witcher.

You playing a game where dragon mass murder, creature try to eat you , bandit try to [censored] you and you can be an cold blooded assassin spilling blodd to the roof and your complaining about "bad words"?
Sorry, not willing to be offensive, just doing a cold anolisys with some reality check. If so this game is not for you, or your being hypocrit or you have a serious paradox going on and should stop, cool down and meditate about buying skyrim.
Your asking a wargame without death, a love movie without kisses, jumping in the sea witohut getting wet, an armed revolution without blood spill, an earthquake in a city without any damage.
Bad words, in a moral and psycological damge approach, are the lesser of the evils present in skyrim.

Ha and by the way profanity and other kind of cursing would fit any medieval game, fantasy or not.
You have to remember that the frakly hipocrite Politicaly correct mindset and enforcement is from the 80 i mean 1980. There was also a try in the earthean late middle age in literature and language, but it was short lived.
Althoug cursing out of context has always been badly seen, cursing "in context" is higly excusable.
Cursing is natural blocking a steam valve is always bad, now curse abuse ain t good, but i dont think TES would do that.
anyway TES want to remain in the T 13+ range, so no curse, and other assinine limitations, when you can plunge a sword in the belly of a innocent bystander...But who sayd our society is rational ?

Part of it is that taking refuge in profanity comes across as immature and uncreative, for many of us. Yes, there are contexts in which it's appropriate (like in shows like Scarface, or The Wire). But just throwing it all over the place for the sake of trying to be "cool" is just sad.

Strong language like Crap and damn. Only stuff that fits in TES.

Yes to "strong" language, but not in English! in every race's own language. The Dunmer did it right. I assume all the races can do that kinda thing. Imagine the "foul smelling ape Khajiit" in the DB quarters, he could have said a lot of things in his strange language, and even though I couldn't understand, I would surely know what it means, judging by his face expression