Installing all the Unofficial Oblivion Patches (OMOD version : IV

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:24 am

Anyone know if any ill effects will occur if I install all the Unofficial Oblivion Patches (OMOD Versions) and put their respected .esm/.esp files in the right order via OBMM while still having Player Made Mods still active in the game's data folder, or should I do a clean reinstall of the the whole GOTY game, then put in the Unofficial Patches, and then the player made mods that I'm still currently using?

Here's the current mods I'm using in the proper load order as both ordered by BOSS and recommended by the mod's respected authors!

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Windfall.esm02  Toaster Says Share v3.esm03  DLCShiveringIsles.esp04  Catsuit.esp05  Collectible T-Shirts V2.1.esp06  Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp07  pale_rider's Hats.esp08  XSPipeMod.esp  [Version 1.2]09  HGEC_BodyGlove.esp0A  DukeCity.esp0B  NewSheothManor.esp0C  Nascosto Isles 3.esp0D  Windfall.esp0E  Knights.esp0F  The Lost Spires.esp10  Tamriel.esp11  ElsweyrAnequina.esp12  TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp13  TWMP_Summerset.esp14  TWMP_Hammerfell.esp15  TWMP_HighRock.esp16  TWMP_Skyrim.esp17  TWMP_Morrowind.esp18  TWMP_BlackMarsh.esp19  MidasSpells.esp1A  Seph's new animations.esp1B  actors_in_charge.esp1C  ActorsInMadness.esp1D  ActorsInEmotions.esp1E  77_Umpa_Animation.esp1F  shinyEmotions.esp20  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp21  TSS Custom Companion  Template.esp22  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp23  Bashed Patch, 0.esp24  Streamline 2.1.esp25  Paris Hilton.esp26  Lindsay Lohan.esp27  Jessica Biel.esp28  Black Beard Races.esp29  Black Goatee Races.esp2A  Black Mustache Races.esp2B  Black Viking Beard Races.esp2C  Black Wizard Beard Races.esp2D  Blonde Beard Races.esp2E  Blonde Goatee Races.esp2F  Blonde Mustache Races.esp30  Blonde Viking Beard Races.esp31  Blonde Wizard Beard Races.esp32  Brown Beard Races.esp33  Brown Goatee Races.esp34  Brown Mustache Races.esp35  Brown Viking Beard Races.esp36  Brown Wizard Beard Races.esp37  Gray Beard Races.esp38  Gray Goatee Races.esp39  Gray Mustache Races.esp3A  Gray Viking Beard Races.esp3B  Gray Wizard Beard Races.esp3C  Red Beard Races.esp3D  Red Goatee Races.esp3E  Red Mustache Races.esp3F  Red Viking Beard Races.esp40  Red Wizard Beard Races.esp41  BKMask.esp42  Dremora Mod 1.00.esp43  AAAEmptyRoom.esp44  Guitar ENG.esp45  Guitar ITA.esp46  77_Umpa_Disco.esp47  TWMP_Tamriel_Ingame_ Map.esp

Please note that all mods I have (except for the Elsweyr Deserts of Anequina, Onra SOTD Heightmaps, and "celebrity name".esp files) were either in OMOD form or I made them into OMODs thru the Oblivion Mod Manager, that way I can just press a simple button and the mod gets uninstall and their files easily deleated from my game's data folder!

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:56 am

Anyone know if any ill effects will occur if I install all the Unofficial Oblivion Patches (OMOD Versions) and put their respected .esm/.esp files in the right order via OBMM while still having Player Made Mods still active in the game's data folder, or should I do a clean reinstall of the the whole GOTY game, then put in the Unofficial Patches, and then the player made mods that I'm still currently using?

It's fine to add them to an ongoing game.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:33 am

It's fine to add them to an ongoing game.

Okay, but what about an ongoing modded out game where your character has modded weapons, modded clothes, and modded spells? My character has at least 3 weapons from mods (a spear courtesy of the Elsweyr Deserts of Anequina mod, a sword courtesy of finishing and beating the final dungeon of the Lost Spires mod, and a crossbow courtesy of the Crossbows of Cyrodiil mod), not to mention that my main character's last major save point is currently in a dungeon crawl in the Nascosto Isles, that she's a female character, and is using the HGEC female body replacer mod!

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:10 pm

Okay, but what about an ongoing modded out game where your character has modded weapons, modded clothes, and modded spells? My character has at least 3 weapons from mods (a spear courtesy of the Elsweyr Deserts of Anequina mod, a sword courtesy of finishing and beating the final dungeon of the Lost Spires mod, and a crossbow courtesy of the Crossbows of Cyrodiil mod), not to mention that my main character's last major save point is currently in a dungeon crawl in the Nascosto Isles, that she's a female character, and is using the HGEC female body replacer mod!

It's fine to add them to an ongoing game with mods running.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:34 am

Bump!

Anybody else know if I should uninstall all my current mods before installing all of the the UOPs, and then reinstall the mods I have or just install the UOPs with the mods I have still active? So far only one person answered me! I need more people's suggestions!

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:39 am

Bump!

Anybody else know if I should uninstall all my current mods before installing all of the the UOPs, and then reinstall the mods I have or just install the UOPs with the mods I have still active? So far only one person answered me! I need more people's suggestions!

Man, it's fine. Oblivion is very robust when it comes to adding/removing mods in an ongoing game. You should of course run BOSS to get the correct load order - but that goes for when adding mods before starting a new game as well.

What's the point of giving advise if the one asking doesn't even trust the advice given?

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:01 am

Man, it's fine. Oblivion is very robust when it comes to adding/removing mods in an ongoing game. You should of course run BOSS to get the correct load order - but that goes for when adding mods before starting a new game as well.

What's the point of giving advise if the one asking doesn't even trust the advice given?

I was asking others to give me advice as to how I should go about the UOP installing thing!

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:48 pm

I was asking others to give me advice as to how I should go about the UOP installing thing!

Fine, but that was the last time I'll waste time on answering your questions.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:40 am

UOP does replace some meshes and can overwrite mod content. If the UOP icon in OBMM is red before installation use the conflict detector to see what conflicts. It may be perfectly safe to overwrite most things but body-replacer armour meshes shouldn't be. Not game-breaking but can be visually unappealing.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:47 am

I'd trust Arkngt, if he said your good, go with it... :shrug:

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:05 pm

If using BAIN, just put them at the top of your install order.

Other than that, just listen to Arkngt.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:47 am

UOP does replace some meshes and can overwrite mod content. If the UOP icon in OBMM is red before installation use the conflict detector to see what conflicts. It may be perfectly safe to overwrite most things but body-replacer armour meshes shouldn't be. Not game-breaking but can be visually unappealing.

You're right! I haven't yet activated the UOP OMOD yet, but the file in Oblivion Mod Manager is showing up as red and I went to find out what it's likely to conflict with, and bigger than anything, it does highly conflict with Onra's heightmaps LOD meshes and textures.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:19 pm

Yes it's safe, yes you should listen to Arkngt's advice and yes the UOP will conflict with most mods but these conflicts are benign.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:46 am

UOP does replace some meshes and can overwrite mod content. If the UOP icon in OBMM is red before installation use the conflict detector to see what conflicts. It may be perfectly safe to overwrite most things but body-replacer armour meshes shouldn't be. Not game-breaking but can be visually unappealing.

You're right! I haven't yet activated the UOP OMOD yet, but the file in Oblivion Mod Manager is showing up as red and I went to find out what it's likely to conflict with, and bigger than anything, it does highly conflict with Onra's heightmaps LOD meshes and textures, as well as most of the other mods I have, especially those that adds animations, new weapons, new clothes and armor, and new spells. No it's not game breaking as far as plain vanilla content goes, but it could break the user made mods I have installed! What do I do?

Here's the partial data conflict report I have for the UOP!

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[Unofficial_Oblivion_Patch_v3_2_0_OMOD_Version-5296.omod] (major conflict)
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-32.-64.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-32.-96.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-64.-32.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-64.-64.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-64.-96.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-64.00.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-96.-32.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-96.-64.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-96.-96.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.-96.00.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.00.-64.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.00.-96.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.32.-64.32.NIF already exists
- CRC mismatch. The new file is different from the old.
- Data file owned by onra heightmaps 1.0.omod
Data file Meshes\Landscape\LOD\60.64.-96.32.NIF already exists
- No data found on file.
Data file DistantLOD\anvilcastlecourtyardworld.cmp already exists
- No data found on file.
Data file DistantLOD\ictalosplazadistrict.cmp already exists
- No data found on file.
Data file DistantLOD\ictempledistrict.cmp already exists
- No data found on file.
Data file DistantLOD\ictempledistrictmq16.cmp already exists
- No data found on file.
Data file DistantLOD\icthearcaneuniversity.cmp already exists
- No data found on file.
Data file DistantLOD\skingradworld.cmp already exists
- No data found on file.

This conflict report displays only data file and script defined conflicts
For EDID conflicts, please use the full conflict report tool.

(Please note this is only a partial conflict report and that the site for some reason is having a hard time hiding large pages of reports, so the one hidden within will have to do!)

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:56 am

You can get away with deactivating the omods whose changes you want to keep, activate UOP then reactivate those mods. You don't have to deactivate everything necessarily.

If I were to start over, I would use BAIN instead of OBMM since it apparently handles situations like this better but I have invested too much time in omods to change now.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:26 pm

You can get away with deactivating the omods whose changes you want to keep, activate UOP then reactivate those mods. You don't have to deactivate everything necessarily.

If I were to start over, I would use BAIN instead of OBMM since it apparently handles situations like this better but I have invested too much time in omods to change now.

The thing is that the Mod the UOP majorly conflicts with is not in OMOD form, and two of the mods I have (2 of the biggest ones, actually (Onra's heightmaps and Illiana's Elsweyr Deserts of Anequina mods) I could never turn into OMODs for some strange reason, so the only thing I can do is do the hard part of having to reinstall the meshes and textures for he heightmap mod all over again! I just hope that I don't mess up my game in the process!

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:25 pm

This is why you should just learn to use Bash. All your problems would be solved, non-existent even.
Congratulations, you have discovered the limitations of obmm *Level Up Sound* ^_^

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:49 am

You can get away with deactivating the omods whose changes you want to keep, activate UOP then reactivate those mods. You don't have to deactivate everything necessarily.

If I were to start over, I would use BAIN instead of OBMM since it apparently handles situations like this better but I have invested too much time in omods to change now.

When BAIN came along I had all replacers and 230+ mods installed with OBMM.

I just got so tired of situations like this that I took to BAIN pretty quick and it took me a fair amount of time to convert it all to BAIN (maybe two weeks of my gaming time to get everything done - but I kept playing too). The good news is that you don't have to do it all at once. Just take sections at a time - the more you convert the more control you will find yourself having over your install. It is encouraging as all the vague and gray areas of 'wait what was installed first?' or 'What was in that OMOD again?' go away and every package is seen for what it is in relation to every other package. Plus you get to change install order - imagine it like being able to change the install order of the omods without having to uninstall and reinstall.

No more black box installing.

Level up!

when Gary Bash came to fallout it was the same thing except I did redo all my FOMODs and BAIN packages before transferring even one.

» Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:55 pm

When BAIN came along I had all replacers and 230+ mods installed with OBMM.

I just got so tired of situations like this that I took to BAIN pretty quick and it took me a fair amount of time to convert it all to BAIN (maybe two weeks of my gaming time to get everything done - but I kept playing too). The good news is that you don't have to do it all at once. Just take sections at a time - the more you convert the more control you will find yourself having over your install. It is encouraging as all the vague and gray areas of 'wait what was installed first?' or 'What was in that OMOD again?' go away and every package is seen for what it is in relation to every other package. Plus you get to change install order - imagine it like being able to change the install order of the omods without having to uninstall and reinstall.

No more black box installing.

Level up!

when Gary Bash came to fallout it was the same thing except I did redo all my FOMODs and BAIN packages before transferring even one.

I was pretty lucky that the only problems I had with installing the UOP OMOD (which is how it was made as I downloaded the OMOD version of the UOP) was with the LOD and distant LOD relating to Onra's SOTD mod! So basically I just reinstalled the meshes and textures from the Onra SOTD mod (much simpler than I thought, btw) as the UOP OMOD didn't overwrite anything else (only because everything else I made into OMODs and had deactivated before installing the UOPs)!

Now I need to know if my .esm/.esp mod load order is correct after installing the UOPs and running the mods load order thru BOSS?!

Load order.
(without Streamline active!)

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Windfall.esm02  Toaster Says Share v3.esm03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]04  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]05  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]08  Catsuit.esp09  Collectible T-Shirts V2.1.esp0A  Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp0B  pale_rider's Hats.esp0C  XSPipeMod.esp  [Version 1.2]0D  HGEC_BodyGlove.esp0E  AAAEmptyRoom.esp0F  DukeCity.esp10  NewSheothManor.esp11  Nascosto Isles 3.esp12  Windfall.esp13  Knights.esp14  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]15  The Lost Spires.esp16  Tamriel.esp17  ElsweyrAnequina.esp18  TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp19  TWMP_Summerset.esp1A  TWMP_Hammerfell.esp1B  TWMP_HighRock.esp1C  TWMP_Skyrim.esp1D  TWMP_Morrowind.esp1E  TWMP_BlackMarsh.esp1F  MidasSpells.esp20  Seph's new animations.esp21  actors_in_charge.esp22  ActorsInMadness.esp23  ActorsInEmotions.esp24  77_Umpa_Animation.esp25  shinyEmotions.esp26  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp27  Black Beard Races.esp28  Brown Beard Races.esp29  Blonde Beard Races.esp2A  Gray Beard Races.esp2B  Red Beard Races.esp2C  Blonde Viking Beard Races.esp2D  Red Viking Beard Races.esp2E  Gray Wizard Beard Races.esp2F  Brown Goatee Races.esp30  Brown Mustache Races.esp31  Blonde Goatee Races.esp32  Black Viking Beard Races.esp33  Brown Viking Beard Races.esp34  Gray Viking Beard Races.esp35  Black Goatee Races.esp36  Gray Goatee Races.esp37  Red Goatee Races.esp38  Blonde Mustache Races.esp39  Black Mustache Races.esp3A  Gray Mustache Races.esp3B  Red Mustache Races.esp3C  Black Wizard Beard Races.esp3D  Blonde Wizard Beard Races.esp3E  Brown Wizard Beard Races.esp3F  Red Wizard Beard Races.esp40  TSS Custom Companion  Template.esp41  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp42  Paris Hilton.esp43  Lindsay Lohan.esp44  Jessica Biel.esp45  BKMask.esp46  Dremora Mod 1.00.esp47  Guitar ENG.esp48  Guitar ITA.esp49  77_Umpa_Disco.esp4A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp4B  TWMP_Tamriel_Ingame_ Map.esp

(With Streamline activated!)

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Windfall.esm02  Toaster Says Share v3.esm03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]04  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]05  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]08  Catsuit.esp09  Collectible T-Shirts V2.1.esp0A  Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp0B  pale_rider's Hats.esp0C  XSPipeMod.esp  [Version 1.2]0D  HGEC_BodyGlove.esp0E  AAAEmptyRoom.esp0F  DukeCity.esp10  NewSheothManor.esp11  Nascosto Isles 3.esp12  Windfall.esp13  Knights.esp14  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]15  The Lost Spires.esp16  Tamriel.esp17  ElsweyrAnequina.esp18  TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp19  TWMP_Summerset.esp1A  TWMP_Hammerfell.esp1B  TWMP_HighRock.esp1C  TWMP_Skyrim.esp1D  TWMP_Morrowind.esp1E  TWMP_BlackMarsh.esp1F  MidasSpells.esp20  Seph's new animations.esp21  actors_in_charge.esp22  ActorsInMadness.esp23  ActorsInEmotions.esp24  77_Umpa_Animation.esp25  shinyEmotions.esp26  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp27  Black Beard Races.esp28  Brown Beard Races.esp29  Blonde Beard Races.esp2A  Gray Beard Races.esp2B  Red Beard Races.esp2C  Blonde Viking Beard Races.esp2D  Red Viking Beard Races.esp2E  Gray Wizard Beard Races.esp2F  Brown Goatee Races.esp30  Brown Mustache Races.esp31  Blonde Goatee Races.esp32  Black Viking Beard Races.esp33  Brown Viking Beard Races.esp34  Gray Viking Beard Races.esp35  Black Goatee Races.esp36  Gray Goatee Races.esp37  Red Goatee Races.esp38  Blonde Mustache Races.esp39  Black Mustache Races.esp3A  Gray Mustache Races.esp3B  Red Mustache Races.esp3C  Black Wizard Beard Races.esp3D  Blonde Wizard Beard Races.esp3E  Brown Wizard Beard Races.esp3F  Red Wizard Beard Races.esp40  TSS Custom Companion  Template.esp41  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp42  Paris Hilton.esp43  Lindsay Lohan.esp44  Jessica Biel.esp45  BKMask.esp46  Dremora Mod 1.00.esp47  Guitar ENG.esp48  Guitar ITA.esp49  77_Umpa_Disco.esp4A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp4B  Streamline 3.1.esp4C  TWMP_Tamriel_Ingame_ Map.esp