Numidian

Calling the Numidium is completely short-sighted, and I take offense that a vessel of transcendence is being compared to as a weapon.

That was disgusting of me to say, Crimson. I'm sorry I said that. There's no excuse, please forgive me.

I understand my theory can seem a bit off, but there's something I haven't been able to understand, it almost seems like a glitch in the human mind. Why is it that when something can be explained in a very sixual way, everything else it interpreted to accommodate said theory? I try to interpret things consistently. And that sometimes means some very weird explanations. But considering the source material, that's to be expected.

I might have missed this in the discussion, but what exactly is the muatra? How/why does it change shape?

Why is it that when something can be explained in a very sixual way, everything else it interpreted to accommodate said theory?

Yep, its in the thread. Muatra is Vivec's spear and/or manhood. Lord Kegrenac has nothing to do with it. The only reference we have to its creation is in the Sermons of Vivec, where Vivec bites off a piece of Molag Bal's manhood, attaches it to his own, and slays a bunch of daedra with it.

Numidium is definitely stronger as a weapon. It managed to decimate the Iliac bay in 4 different and simultaneous timelines, and it grants godhood, too.


Because the contexts it appears in are overtly sixual. Ignoring the thinly veiled metaphors and six jokes is harder than accepting them.

The fact that it's a vessel of transcendence doesn't mean it's not also a kick-ass weapon, when used for those purposes. I imagine it would be great at doing anything you wanted to use it for. Aligning the stars. Baking cakes. Erasing entire civilizations from the pages of history. If you want it done, the Numidium can do it, and do it better than anybody else.

Mehrunes Razor. Also any sword in the hands of a Redguard Ansu is a potential WMD. Never heard of muatra I'll check it out.

Yeah I looked in the elder scroll pages for anything on muatra and any mention seems to be tied to the 36 lessons which is a lot to read. Can anyone find something to read for me?

Vivec assembles a spear from the bones of his armor.

Vivec: "Here, this is Muatra. Guess what it represents."

Vivec stuffs Muatra into Azura's mouth. Azura chokes!

Vivec lay with Molag Bal for eighty days and eight, though headless.

His head found its body had been tenderly used. He mentioned this to Molag Bal, who told him that he should thank the Barons of Move Like This, 'For I have yet to learn how to refine my rapture. My love is accidentally shaped like a spear.'

So Vivec, who had a grain of Ayem's mercy, set about to teach Molag Bal in the ways of belly-magic. They took their spears out and compared them. Vivec bit new words onto the King of R@pe's so that it might give more than ruin to the uninitiated. This has since become a forbidden ritual, though people still practice it in secret.

Here is why: The Velothi and demons and monsters that were watching all took out their own spears. There was much biting and the earth became wet.( :rofl: )

But Vivec made of his spear a more terrible thing, from a secret he had bitten off from the King of [censored]. And so he sent Molag Bal tumbling into the crack of the biters and swore forever that he would not deem the King beautiful ever again.

Vivec wept as he slew all those around him with his terrible new spear. He named it MUATRA, which is Milk Taker, and even the Chimeri mystics knew his fury.

Here.


- http://www.imperial-library.info/content/trial-vivec




- http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-thirty-six-lessons-vivec-sermon-fourteen

There, I put a lot of work and highlighting effort into filling it out for you so that there can be no misunderstanding, unless you're ridiculously sixually repressed.

These are the Sermons of Vivec we're talking about. Thus there is no such thing as too bizarre of a ritual, even if it does carry sixual overtones.

To me, interpreting it purely as thinly veiled smut instead of a bizarre, impossible ritual with sixual overtones is BATW.

These are the Sermons of Vivec we're talking about. Thus there is no such thing as too bizarre of a ritual, even if it does carry sixual overtones.

To me, interpreting it purely as thinly veiled smut instead of a bizarre, impossible ritual with sixual overtones is BATW.

It's written in metaphor (if thinly veiled). Given Vivec's penchant for duality, what's stopping it from being both? I mean, do you honestly believe that Vivec is always wearing a divinely-sewed-on piece of skin from Molag Bal? No, it was a metaphor.

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough, the events are metaphorical.