Hi, I have a simple little question.

On this forum and this subsection mainly I often come across [Numinit]

I was wondering what it is please? Its obviously an in-crowd joke and I so desperately want to belong:/

The original reference is to http://www.imperial-library.info/content/etada-eight-aedra-eat-dreamer. You'll see it used in a fairly loose manner as referring to something which is incommunicable for some reason or another - whether for being too profound, for having been erased from the pages of history, or because they simply can't think of a suitable word.

It's just a fun way of saying "I can't tell you this word."

the same thing as [censored]

Yes, yes, I had gathered that but didnt know the origin.

Thank you so much

For my part I use it for something so mind numbingly awesome or obscene that I'd immediately be suffocated by moths or swarmed by scribs and eaten to death if I said it out loud.

I use it when I swear. It's cooler than "[censored]"

Ya, who started that?

Oldest forum post that's still active: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/769715-the-pronunciation-of-chim/page__p__11165061#entry11165061 :blush2:

Wow, I think that was on of my first appearances in the lore forum section.

Considerably older than that. Kirkbride was talking about his piece "Talo[NUMINIT]" as far back as 2006 (I know what's been censored there, but on the off chance hs still gonna write it I'm not sayin' nuthin).

Yes, I was playing dear.

Though in truth, I interpreted the question not as "who was the first to use it in that manner," naturally that's going to be MK, having come up with it and all. Rather I took the question, "who was the first to take MK's thing and start playing with it."

Wait, CHIM is pronounced kim? Or perhaps... khim as in chim[era]? I really need to read more of these old threads.

I pronounce CHIM with that ch that's in German, Yiddish, and the Semitic languages. You know the one.

I always figured it pronounced as in "Chimney". The "CH" makes it more awesome-sounding than a "K".

Its supposed to be pronounced like the Ch in Chimera. I reject that reality and pronounce it like Chimney.

I tend to do as well. It's just easier. Hell, originally wasn't Dunmer pronounced "DOON-mare?" We can just call it an Imperial mangling of the original Aldmeris or we can just say this way is easier, but however you slice it that's now even how people in the games say it.

As for [numinit], it is basically just a way of avoiding the Lovecraft Pitfall of spending a lot of time describing how indescribable something is, which can get really tedious really fast. Instead, we have a single not-word to carry the idea across.

he's asking when people started using it as a replacement to [censored].

I maintain that when I started doing it, it was an original thought. Even if someone else had it earlier...

My post was in reference to an instance of [NUMINIT] being used as self-censorship by Michael Kirkbride. The name of the piece was not Talo[NUMINIT].

I thought it was Talo(OS) Operating System. Which is redundant and kind of bugs me.