Casting spells on NPCs turn them hostile : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:33 am

In my previous game NPCs often tried to duck, courtesy of Deadly Reflex, when casting spells on them. It was a minor annoyance but they never turned hostile.
In my current game however NPCs turn hostile if I cast Charm on them and Deetsa of the Cheydinhal Mages Guild even turned hostile when I cast a Water Breathing spell directly in front her.
I don't know what governs these things, but hopefully someone has an idea.

My mod list:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Windfall.esm02  TR_OoT_Main.esm03  Jog_X_Mod.esm04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]08  Harvest[Containers].esm09  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]0A  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0B  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0C  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0D  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0E  Better Cities Resources.esm0F  The Other Spheres Base.esm10  HorseCombatMaster.esm11  PMSneakySummons.esm  [Version 1]12  MALO - MAIN.esm**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]16  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]17  Better Cities .esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1B  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  Fran Armor Add-on.esp1E  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1F  All Natural - 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Merged mods:

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» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:34 pm

In my previous game NPCs often tried to duck, courtesy of Deadly Reflex, when casting spells on them. It was a minor annoyance but they never turned hostile.
In my current game however NPCs turn hostile if I cast Charm on them and Deetsa of the Cheydinhal Mages Guild even turned hostile when I cast a Water Breathing spell directly in front her.
I don't know what governs these things, but hopefully someone has an idea.

My mod list:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Windfall.esm02  TR_OoT_Main.esm03  Jog_X_Mod.esm04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]08  Harvest[Containers].esm09  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]0A  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0B  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0C  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0D  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0E  Better Cities Resources.esm0F  The Other Spheres Base.esm10  HorseCombatMaster.esm11  PMSneakySummons.esm  [Version 1]12  MALO - MAIN.esm**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]16  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]17  Better Cities .esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1B  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  Fran Armor Add-on.esp1E  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1F  All Natural - 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Merged mods:

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at least for me the charm spell hostility issue didn't start happening till i downloaded the DR 5 hotfix patch; however, i never tried switching back to the non-hotfixed version because i considered the charm spell thing worth the other fixes from the patch.

so if you are using the hotfix patch for DR 5 switching back to the other version of the esm/esp may help

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:38 pm

Happens with me - I think Skycaptain mentioned that this is a known issue with DR5 - I think if you don't have the NPC active in the target icon, you can cast spells at them, but touch spells are sort of pushing it. I perform touch spells behind NPC backs, but I think they still sense it as they don't really look through their eyes

BTW, curious on your merged plugin. Did you set the priority 1 for all of these and create the mergedplugin.esp via TES4Edit? Or was it more complicated?

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:10 pm

Yeah this is a stupid oversight on my part - but please god DON′T go without the hotfix even though this bug is annoying. You′ll have much more broken otherwise, and an repeating freezing of the whole game on top of that.

I thought for a long time this hostile thing was fixed in the hotfix, but only recently noticed that there was a typo in the script so the check for hostile spell did nothing. It should be fine if you manage to pull it off without the NPC detecting you while you cast, or if you manage to pull it off without actually aiming at the NPC.

This is naturally fixed in DR6, the first beta will come out in the end of this month.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:46 pm

DR6, the first beta will come out in the end of this month.

The entire world just had an orgism!

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:18 pm

Is this why I can cast one charm that is non-hostile vs another that is (target vs touch)?

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:37 am

BTW, curious on your merged plugin. Did you set the priority 1 for all of these and create the mergedplugin.esp via TES4Edit? Or was it more complicated?

I set priority based on load order, but setting them all to 1 should also work since there should be no conflicts.

Yeah this is a stupid oversight on my part - but please god DON′T go without the hotfix even though this bug is annoying. You′ll have much more broken otherwise, and an repeating freezing of the whole game on top of that.
I thought for a long time this hostile thing was fixed in the hotfix, but only recently noticed that there was a typo in the script so the check for hostile spell did nothing. It should be fine if you manage to pull it off without the NPC detecting you while you cast, or if you manage to pull it off without actually aiming at the NPC.

This is naturally fixed in DR6, the first beta will come out in the end of this month.

Hmm...I think some other mod must be interfering, though, since things worked differently in my previous game and I'm using the same version of DR5.
But it seems going into sneak mode helps, even if the target can see you. At least I was able to cast Charm on an NPC while crouching right in front of her. Only one test though.