How many towers are there, and how do their 'stones' relate to them?

Is the crystal tower of Alinor one, and wouldn't that be contrary to the ideals of the altmer?

How does Lorkhan relate to the towers (other than, of course, red tower) ?

Maybe eight. The stones, or hearts, are imitations of the Lorkhan's heart, the "Heart of the World." The Cloven Duality, the war between Akatosh and Lorkhan, is fought within these stones, as it is fought in Nirn. This means the tower stones shape creation.


Yes, the Aldmer who stayed in Sumerset built it. Not at all, they built Crystal Tower to their specifications.


Lorkhan saw the Tower, which is the rim of the Aurbis. He and the other spirits convened on Nirn, and the place of their meeting became Adamantia Tower, which was the first.

The towers channel creatia (whatever that is) to the specification of the one who holds the tower's stone. The Aldmer tower probably destabilizes Nirn somehow.

Off the top of my head, we have Orichalc Tower, created by the Left Handed Elves deactivated by the Redguards, which could be the cause behind the sinking of Yokuda. Then there's White Gold Tower, created by the Ayleids, which once harvested creatia from Oblivion. Then there's Red Tower, of which things are a bit more confusing, although it's agreed that it was deactivated when the Nerevarine freed the Heart. There's Adamantium Tower, the First Tower. There was Brass Tower, also known as Numidium, created by (and from) the Dwemer, destroyed by the Underking. And finally there's Snow-Throat. There may be more, but I don't know what the others would be.

Falinesti, aka Green Sap. Crystal Tower, aka Crystal-Like Law. That rounds out the ones I remember.

I guess you didn't mention Crystal Tower, because it was already named. :turned:

So is Snow-Throat one of the last active towers left? Wonder if we might be making a trip there in a few month? :hubbahubba:

Hrothgar is another name for Snow-Throat. So, we will.

Isn't Hrothgar where the game starts?

Maybe. It begins on a mountain. Not sure which.

Actually I had been too lazy to look over your post. Sorry about that.

Isn't the mane somehow a stone to Moon-Watcher Tower or something?

Someone once said that the entire Khajiiti race is a 'tower' of sorts. I'm too tired to find evidence at the moment, but I like the sound of it.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1067967-khajiiti-tower/page__hl__tower+khajiit__st__20 seems to speak to that though the discussion seems to drop off a bit without a clear consensus.

One interesting thing I learned from that, aside from the Khajit 'tower', is that Martin reestablished the white-gold tower with his sacrifice. Is this generally agreed upon? I personally thought Akatosh merely banished Dagon then left, leaving the tower vacated?

No, I'm all fairly certain that White-Gold still stands, given that it still stands.

I disagree with the gist of the thread that all towers are connected with the eight divines, seeing as how the eight divines are an invention of the Cyrodiil and except for Akatosh have nearly no mythical importance. They are all linked to the Doom Drum or the Dragon.
Adamantine is the condemnation of Lorkhan by Akatosh.
Red Mountain is the wound of the world (Lorkhan) by the falling of his heart. You might say it's the hole in his chest made manifest.
Crystal-Like-Law is obviously the seat of the High King of Alinor.
Walk-Brass is the harnessing of Lorkhan. Even when they lost the Heart, the Mantella worked because it was the heart of Lorkhan also.
Snow-Throat is the mind of Lorkhan. Lorkhan commanded the et'ada to form Mundus just as thu'um commands them inside Mundus.
White-Gold is the perfect gem of compromise.
The Khajiit are the binding of Lorkahn's body to Mundus.
If anyone has any information on Orichalc or Green-Sap I would be grateful, though balance would dictate that they are both of the Dragon.

Do you mean, where were the Khajiit when the Dragon Broke? R'leyt tells you where: recording it. 'One thousand eight years,' you've heard it. You think the Cyro-Nordics came up with that all on their own. You humans are better thieves than even Rajhin! While you were fighting wars with phantoms and giving birth to your own fathers, it was the Mane that watched the ja-Kha'jay, because the moons were the only constant, and you didn't have the sugar to see it.

So the moons would otherwise be invisible. That's interesting. The Mane throws himself into a psychosis for love of the Khajiit, so they don't lose their belief in the ja-Kha'jay. The Mane keeps the show going, so to speak. He throws the Aurbis on manual drive.

I thought "didn't have the sugar to see it" referred to the failure to realize the significance of the constancy of the moons, not an inability to see the moons themselves? Also I may be misreading your post; I'm quite tired and lack confidence in my reading comprehension.

The moons are the constant, or inherently constant, is how I read it. In the Dawn, there are the Khajiit, and there are those who do not have the sugar to see the only constant: the moons.

Regardless, the Mane's on the sugar, and what he sees is the ja-Kha'jay. Khajiit still believe in the Cloven Duality, while the sugarless see the Duality was never there. (There are others who remain above disbelief, besides the Khajiit.)

If I remember correctly it's Proweler's invention, it's based on the story from http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-words-clan-mother-ahnissi-her-favored-daughter where Khajiits = tower, moon sugar = stone and Lunar Lattice = the barrier ("dragon fires"]

Yikes. Better not have a Dragon Break now that the Mane's gone, eh?