Magicka stuck exactly 50 below max : IV

» Wed May 04, 2011 9:20 pm

Hey everyone it's me again, with another problem I just can't figure out. I recently used the unnoficial Oblivion pact to fix some bugged attributes and rather stupidly just tried to be safe and fix magicka too. Well needless to say this resulted in a permanent deficite of 50 magicka, which I cannot seem to fix
(as a side note when I try to go back into the restore broken attribute menu it no longer appears on this character, I even uninstalled then rein-stalled the UOP and the menu is still broken)
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SI.esp  [Version 1.0]16  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]17  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]18  WindowLightingSystem.esp19  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp1A  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2.2]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.74]1B  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.3.1]1C  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.69]1D  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]1E  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp1F  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]21  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]22  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]23  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]24  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]25  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]26  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]27  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]28  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]29  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2A  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2B  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2E  Fransfemale.esp2F  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]30  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp31  mrSiikas_BetterPorts_Seagulls.esp32  Knights.esp33  Knights - 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Thanks in advance for any advice you can give, I really appreciate it.

» Wed May 04, 2011 4:48 pm

disable nGCD (use v2?), save, enable?

» Wed May 04, 2011 12:11 pm

I am using v2, and unfortunately I tried that already =/ It just goes up and remains 50 below my maximum, then goes back down and remains 50 below maximum when I re-enable it.

» Wed May 04, 2011 3:19 pm

Are you using Wrye Bash? That load order seems way out of whack. Use BOSS too.

Streamline loads earlier now using BOSS.

Those mods loading after the patch would normally be before using BOSS. You also have both script silencers loaded. I thought you were only supposed to use one or the other.

I only recently became aware of perm enchant mods. Do those two enhanced/restore work together?

» Thu May 05, 2011 1:44 am

Hey everyone it's me again, with another problem I just can't figure out. I recently used the unnoficial Oblivion pact to fix some bugged attributes and rather stupidly just tried to be safe and fix magicka too. Well needless to say this resulted in a permanent deficite of 50 magicka, which I cannot seem to fix

The UOP stat fixing script uses the ModAV command. This is a pretty bad idea, because the way it adjusts your stats is unconventional. UOP seems to be pretty careful about it, though, and when the script was written I think it might have been the only way to go about it. Anyway, clearly it backfired this time.

What you need to do (most likely) is clear the 'script' modifier for your magicka stat. This requires you to have OBSE v19, and enter the following into the console:

player.SetAVMod Magicka Script 0

Caveat - I'm not sure if nGCD or your other mods adjust the script modifier for their own purposes. They probably shouldn't - it leads to problems like this - but you may want to consult their docs first.

Can I ask what was wrong with your magicka in the first place (i.e. what led you to use the UOP fix for it)? You can probably take care of that it the console too.

» Wed May 04, 2011 5:52 pm

The UOP stat fixing script uses the ModAV command. This is a pretty bad idea, because the way it adjusts your stats is unconventional. UOP seems to be pretty careful about it, though, and when the script was written I think it might have been the only way to go about it. Anyway, clearly it backfired this time.

What you need to do (most likely) is clear the 'script' modifier for your magicka stat. This requires you to have OBSE v19, and enter the following into the console:

player.SetAVMod Magicka Script 0

Caveat - I'm not sure if nGCD or your other mods adjust the script modifier for their own purposes. They probably shouldn't - it leads to problems like this - but you may want to consult their docs first.

Can I ask what was wrong with your magicka in the first place (i.e. what led you to use the UOP fix for it)? You can probably take care of that it the console too.

I don't think ngcd runs any scripts, but that might have changed in the recent realese. I used the fix magicka function because it seemed way off (and is was, to be fair), but I resolved the issue. I will give this a go and see if it works real quick. Also on a side note, ITPaladin, I am using BOSS to sort my load order and I beleive it is different for me because I run FCOM. Uhm currently only one script effect silencer is on, bash just displays the other for no good reason lol. And of course I use bash, trying to run FCOM without it is just suicidal =p and yes I beleive those two enchant mods are completely compatable (in fact I think they are part of the same mod)

Haha beautiful, thank you very, very much. Fixed and everything is normal. Thank you all very much for you time.
Mods feel free to close this thread ^^

» Thu May 05, 2011 12:35 am

I don't think ngcd runs any scripts,

Dude, nGCD is almost nothing but scripts. v2 doesn't even use any helper spells.

But anyway, it makes no use of the ModAV command and will never cause that sort of problem.