The reason people take the time to gripe is...THEY JUST GOT RIPPED FOR $60. Not everyone is a devoted fan boy legrider that thinks the game should be loved by all and if its not, those that dont shouldnt say anything negative about getting RIPPED OFF. $60 FOR 8 MAPS? REALLY? Cause thats what ya got. With the amount of content in the game, it should have been released as a $30 download. Losing the $60, for a game that is FAR less than it was hyped as being, gives them the right.

Splash Damage DID HYPE the heck out of it. They released 10-11 videos hyping the game as the end all be all to FPS. Dont claim to have what you cant bring to the table SD. This game could have and should have been as epic as they touted it would be. Im sorry that it is not. I have been waiting months for this game and am pretty much disgusted with what all is lacking from this game. As it stands, its nothing more than a frenzy of spawn/choke point camping. Gets lame doing the same thing over and over and over, especially when it only takes 3-4 hours to see everything BRINK has to offer. We need some MAJOR DLC for free IMHO.

Don't confuse enjoyment with expectation. I enjoy the game. I do well in the game. I understand the game.

I also.....expected more for $60....expected more fluid movement (smart is nice, but actually running and shooting is not really fluid to me).....expect a ground breaking story line......expected an indepth customizing......expected TONS of guns.....expected MANY MANY MAPS (not just 8, since it is SP,CO-OP,MP game it needs MORE MAPS).....expected smarter AI.....expected a better polish....


You see what I am getting at? I enjoy what I have in front of me. If it were a PIZZA I would be pleased......but I expected GREAT PIZZA, not DIGIORNO.




I compare this game to SHADOWRUN. Plain and simple. Good game.....not what people were expecting, but it was a good game at best. New stuff not seen on a FPS MULTIPLAYER CONSOLE, but not groundbreaking.

No one is denying their right to [censored] about the game man..

All I'm doing is retorting in the same fashion that they're complaining in. I guess everyone's expectations skyrocketed after being all hyped about it. I keep having to refer to ET when trying to defend the game (simply because they were both developed by SD and I enjoyed ET immensely) and if you look at the original maps released for ET, there were around eight if not less. Eight maps are more than enough for me. I just need to be able to play and have a good time. How many do you want? 15? 20? How many does CoD have again?

Sliced Bread, I see what you're getting at. To each their own I guess. Nothing I can say. When I was awaiting the game to come out, I was just excited about SMART and the objective based multiplayer and both have delivered. Maybe I just don't expect much lol..

Whats ET stand for?

ET stands for Enemy Territory.

I gotcha. If you were expecting what we got then I see how you feel that way. I expected more cause every other game does that. Delivers more. 10 maps on CoD is NOT just 10 maps cause you can play MANY different modes. IF CoD was delivered with 10 maps and the ONLY game type was HQ, think it would get blasted?

The 8 maps on here are really 16, cause they play the same way as the resistance and the same way as the security no matter how many times you play it. The combination of game modes/types is far more on other FPS games.....thus people feel they got what they paid for.....this just delivered a substandard amount of content when it was touted as being in-depth and whatnot.

I actually think a CTF type game on a huge map with everyone as lights could prove interesting. We'll just have to wait and see if Splash Damage has any intentions of making DLC like that..

Not meant to please everyone, meant to be enemy territory 3. Killzone 3 has objectives and tdm modes, perfect example. TDM would be nice to have, especially with open-ended maps and the simple "spawn near your teammates" feature.

8 maps is not enough for a game that has 3 play modes that all share the same maps. Thats just fn lame. I dont care. COD:BO Has full SP storyline and shipped with how many MP maps? They said "the ark is huge". Not with those 8 tiny maps. Its a laughable effort to me, especially after what they were claiming it would be. This could have been one of the best games ever, they just didnt put enough in it. I think they waisted most of their budget and time on getting SMART to work and everthing else suffered due to that. They had spent so much time that they had to ship to get some money so, they shipped 1/2 a game IMHO. The original TF for Quake offered more than BRINK ,in over all gameplay, and it was FREE. As a matter of fact, BRINK shares the same classes except the heavy and pyro.

Just goes to show you guys have got other games to play, BO on 360 has 500k on every day. :S

I'm still looking forward to the game, still waiting for release I love MP only games, team work, and something that's different. I liked the [censored] ETQW port for 360 and i loved Shadowrun i'm sure i will enjoy Brink.

This is what I am getting at!!!!

LOL


Do you think that it should have been an afterthought? Or should be a DLC? For the amount of content we got....some of us feel slighted. There should have been a few more things. I can name a few:

Larger, squared (think challenge maps), balanced maps

CTF with ONLY LIGHT OPS and MEDICS
King of the HILL with ONLY HEAVY ENGINEERS and LIGHT OPS
TDM with MEDIUMS SOLDIERS AND MEDICS ONLY
SEARCH AND DESTROY with heavy and lights...NO MEDIUMS


What would have been the harm in shipping a MAP EDITOR like HALO and GAME TYPE EDITOR? That would have opened this game up BEYOND belief.

This stuff should have been thought of and shipped. All have team aspects.


Matter of fact....I think this is new topic material. LOL

This is my experience of the game:

My first impression was "cool menu" as soon as i started walking around in game it went to "huh? whats going on??"
The graphics dissapointed me incredibly. on the gameplay videos (that were on xbox apparently from the X button and all) the graphics and colours were amazing. now that i play it on xbox as well, in a security mission by example the ark and the sun is all blurry and looks like im looking at a boring picture. everything gets so pixelated that id think i was playing a game on xbox original. At first i thought i was my settings since i just bought one of the new 360 consoles but nope. full 1080p on a full 1080p plasma linked by hdmi cable. graphics overall extremely dissapointing.

The SMART system is a good idea and works somewhat well, but if i try to jump over a rail on a staircase it sometimes starts shaking and not going over. Control on it is horrible. If you start sliding on a table and want to stop in the middle we should be able to. or so said SD. nope, no way. cutscene, ram across and get killed.
The levels are okay. some are well though of but on every and each one of them i could barely feel the need to parcour. maybe jump over a rail or two and jump down from a balcony but other than that SMART is only useful for sliding down to avoid bullets.

Character customization is cool. interesting style but not much choices, adding all choices together i understand how they came up with "thousands of options" but it still feels like "wear this or this. then this or this...etc"

But the thing that annoyed me the most about this game is the game modes. Sometimes i just want to get on and kill people. then seeing how well i did. But the only thing we can do is campaign co-op or versus. The AI is a little overpowered (unless theyre on your team which somehow makes them pretty dumb) but thats not really the issue itll just make people get better at the game. But the fact that i cant choose what kind of game i want to play and forces me to play campaing over and over again gets extremely irritating. Not only that but the fact i cant play with my friends even when they make a game "My rank and Higher" them at rank 2 and me at 3, i CANT join them. no matter what. "Your rank is too high for this server" now im guessing this is a bug but these kind of bugs shouldnt be happening. way too obvious of a bug.

I understand the fact of making people cooperate more but its impossible to force people to cooperate. no matter how much it affects the game. The only time i actually feel like trying to play Brink is when i have friends playing. i despise the game if i join a random online match where no one communicates or buffs each other or any kind of help at all.

Anyways, the game has good concepts but feels like an unfinished game. like a kid does his homework the night before. In my oppinion SD should have pushed the game away for at least one more year. Even if it wouldve annoyed people that have been waiting for years, like me when i first heard of the game by the smart system but at least all this hating wouldntve been here. Now im not saying im hating the game, just dissapointed to the fact that im wondering why i spent my money on this game and considering trading it in for 20$.
If in the next updates SD: fixes the buggs (obviously), adds multiplayer modes, adds costumes (even in dlcs) and improves the graphics (especially explosions and deaths) then the game will be a decent purchase. if not, im trading it for fear 3 or dead space 2.

What I don't get is how ANYONE can be bitterly disappointed by the Customization. Find me a modern, multi-platform shooter with better appearance customization... I dare you. Hell, even just a modern, console-friendly ANYTHING game with better appearance customization would provide a challenge. It's weapon range and customization rivals most shooters. And the skill system is just about one of the only balanced ones I've seen in any shooter.

They can be dissapointed because SD claimed "almost limitless customization" and thats not even close to being the case. With the lack of actual game content, they could/should have done more with the customization. The game is lacking from top to bottom, especially considering what they claimed it would be. Some peiople will defend anything.
More than likely, I have been gaming since before you were born, literally, played thousands of games and I can only think of one other game that made me get online and rant instead of playing it and that was UNREAL from Epic. Im not a complainer but damn it, when SD hyped this game to be FAR more than what we would get, Im a little upset. More so at the deception they perpitrated on us than anything else. I feel like we were sold short in many aspects and so do lots of other people.

Well I don't know about you, but 102,247,681,536,000,000 totally unique character possibilities is pretty impressive to me, even if that does count minor attributes like skin tones and tattoos. I too was a little disappointed at the end result, but if anything is was forum speculation that over-hyped it rather than the developers themselves. I'm still perfectly satisfied with what they're presenting on the customization front because it's still at an impressive level. There really isn't a game that actually has "almost limitless customization", especially appearance-wise, and I think SD are perfectly justified in claiming then when in comparison to what the rest of the FPS market offers today.

All very fair points, you have a right to feelings and I won't argue against that. I still haven't played Brink yet (it should be arriving any minute now), but the hours of official & leaked footage and hordes of reviews have only gotten me more excited for the game. I anticipate that it the end it will deliver on all fronts that I personally expected from it, and with time will only improve. At the moment the only thing I can see as bothering me are the stupid AI teammates, but SD have said they're looking into it.

This is also why I wanted and got Brink and am having the most fun I've had online in years. You actually feel good when playing this game. Not sure what you were looking for in Brink but I am glad that it is not another COD clone.

If the number is correct, thats fairly impressive but it doesnt feel like there are that many options. I cant agree with the statement that the forum hyped the gam, quite the opposite. I have never been on this forum before the game was released. ALL of the hype that I got was from watching the SD DEV diary vids and other trailers. There is something wrong when none of the cutscenes from the trailers are in the game. WTF is that about? Why not show your actual product instead of what you WONT get? To me, that is terrible business.

In your first paragraph you say that you are "perfectly satisfied presenting on customization" and in the second paragraph you say "you havent plaeyd the game yet", so how can you actually make an arguement either way?

How do you know that the trailer cut scenes are not in the game? So far, I have seen most of the trailer and scenes that were shown throughout dev in the game. Have you beat Brink already?

Devs make things then cut them all the time. Hell, both the NA and EU cover packaging for MAG showed characters with balaclavas as the dominant image... and balaclavas didn't even make the final cut. And to be honest, devs will use any sneaky words to make their product sound better. It's the way it works; though they set out to make great games, in the end development studios are business and profit comes first. Sure you can be disappointed by the "lack" of customization, but unless you can find a direct quote from a dev that explains, in detail & with specific examples, that the customization will be better than what it actually turned out to be at release, it's your fault for over-hyping it for yourself.


Studying pretty much every official and leaked minute of in-game footage I could find. There have been some pretty detailed ones on customization, both appearance and weapons, so I know exactly what to expect.

+1

Thats a fact, the majority of the ppl who bought the game, like it.

I don't want to get slogged into the hate fest that is this post but I feel I should add my 2 cents.
(Hate shield activate)
I like Brink. I am happy with what I bought. I'm glad it doesn't have a Team Deathmatch mode because then many class features would be useless.

Kill me quick.

Yeah, I beat it in 3-4 hours. The scenes are not in the game. There was also supposed to be alarms that were triggered by breaking lasers as you passed through them. The concept was, you would either slide or jump over them using SMART, they arent in the game either.

The customization is not what I feel shorted on. Its over all lack of content. I.E. Storyline, lack of maps, lack of objectives, lack of SMART routes on many maps (there are a couple that have a decent amount but most dont), lack of ALL of the cool storyline that was depicted in preview videos that were produced AFTER the game was supposed to be done. If you are showing a FINISHED product, why is there so much of that finished product missing. 100% of the hype that I received was from watching videos, not talking to people or running wild in my mind with what BRINK would be. What they HYPED simply isnt there. The ARK doesnt even feel like a feasable living community. There is NOTHING there to indicate that 50,000 people live there, none of what we got jives with what it was supposed to be. Like it or not, that is the fact. You are on here talking out the side of your neck. You argue with people that have played when at the time, you had not. That, to me, takes away 100% of your credibilty and someone should certainly see your oppinion for what it is, fan boy hype. WOW you studied the footage, WHO THE HELL DIDNT? Seriously, come real or not at all. Save your assumptions and argue when you have facts.

Let me say this, I LOVE BRINK for what it is but its not what it was supposed to be.I will tell it like I see it with a clear and unbiased mindset. I am optimistic that it could become what they claimed it to be but damn it, thats what it should have been when it hit the shelves. I will not defend the game in hopes that others buy it, so the DEVS dont flop on supporting the game, like so many do. I can understand that because in your nieve mind, you love evrything about the game and want it to succeed if even through deception. I just cant be like that.