I open this thread over at the splash damage forum but would love to hear peoples opinions over here.
http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25645

If you do the, "what if" scenario on the security side the boss man (his name eludes me right now), says they've been trying to avoid anyone going to the land because the last time they tried they got killed and shredded to the bone, he also said the situation on land is worse then, The Ark.

Do you think land is dominated by women who segregated themselves from the savages that are males who cause nothing but war! jk not serious with that one.


Seriously though what do you guys think the situation is - mutated humans? what can be worse then the security or resistance..that has pretty much peaked my interest.

I also mention I wouldn't mind a "what if" scenario for resistance that has a new map that features them reaching a shoreline to some small ghetto town with some sort of freakish faction.

I would just say that it's split into factions probably. People have most likely come together in different groups. As for the team dying, the land people would want to go to the Ark for a better life/pillage it

Yeah, I'm guessing both parties the one from the ARK(resistance) and the people from the land would want to go to their perspective places - the resistance would literally be in some kind of eternal war against the people of the land who think the ARK is the last bastion of hope.

helgans have taken over and are enslaveing all humans

I imagine the land folk as a brutal, almost animalist, early human. But then, I think...What about the rhetoric that the security guards are told? What if that story he tells is a lie? What if it never happened? Worse yet...What if they really ARE welcoming to new comers like the human spirit would suggest, and THATS why the folks who left never returned. There arent many places ~6000ft in altitude(So the flood wouldnt drown them) that could sustain growth, but if there were, it would obviously take a LARGE amount of community to have them grow crops, etc to survive, otherwise it'd be a barren wasteland out there.

To summarize: They are either non-existant or a truely communitive, welcoming folk. In my eyes. The security rhetoric about a bioweapon from the Resistance Vaccine is proof enough that they will lie.

The Founder's recon force came into contact with some bad people 13 years ago, and now they are scared [censored]less. 13 years is a long time ago. If the Ark set up one or more foward operating base, they could resupply the Ark and protect it's location while trying to make peaceful contact with survivors. Not all humans who survived the flood would be anarchists like the first group. I just hope the Resistance who escaped keep their heads about them and manage to survive long enough to make peaceful contact.

It depends on the side you play.
Look at it this way when you play as security on container city you are looking for a bio bomb, same level for the resistance you are protecting a cure.

So it depends who you played as.

Next, if you beat the game as resistance there is a short video of Chan looking over a model of the ark, and goes out side for a smoke and turns out his is on a boat headed for the ark. Guess he fund life that was friendly.
What i am trying to say is if there add onto the story around this basis it'll depend what side you play for.

actually no. as far as i can tell, everything apart from the What-If is canon. the bio-bomb/cure thing was bad intel on the security part. (probably the the Security Captain purposly coming u with bad intel, seeing as how much he likes to go to extremes)

Everything in the missions is, but, lets face is, BOTH sides are HEAVY rhetoric speakers. It could have been a vile of baby vomit for all we know, but the security forces were coming, and the resistance had to defend themselves. Kinda puts the Sec's in the wrong, unless it really WAS something dangerous.

God I hate rhetoric in war.

I am going by what is said, and seen. All the guessing is not the best thing to do when you an't go in and ask what happened after you got the "whatever the hell was in the vault?"
I am going by a mix of what i've seen in game play, how it plays out and videos inside the game. Best was would to head over to england and ask splash damage what it all means.

i understand. i didn't mean any flaming or insult. just adding what i did know and what i think.

Don't worry about it. I just for some reason come off as harsh when explaining my point in writing.
Guess it is my no bull [censored] writing style.

the next game shouldnt be about going to the mainland but the mainland going to the ark. where instead of the security vs resistance its just the ark vs mainland.

Yea so security doesn't want people to leave Ark because there afraid everyone out there is a bunch of crazed desperate lunatics and Chen wants to leave Ark because it is dieing. The Arkoral(The stuff the city sits on) is actually dieing off according to him in the audio logs but he never tells the founders because politically it would make him look bad. Oh and in the other audio logs the "Guests" side is literally disintegrating and falling into the ocean with no way to stop it. So there basically screwed eight ways to sunday. The game is most certainly set up for a sequel.

The Founders are the evil ones on the ark, security is there tools too get things done plus they get the wrong intel on what the Resistance is doing. Example, Resistance made a cure but security thought it was a bio weapon.

Also they did contact land 13 years ago but it was in even worse chape them the ark. All in all The founders are evil resistance are tools and rebels are just being abondoned by founder.

You know what I just realized. The container city cutscene where they open the container got cut out. Remember when they break in and the Russian guy thinks its going to be a rusty pistol and some leaflets? I had forgotten that until just now. Yea both sides are jerks who if they spent 20 minutes telling the truth and then cooperating would probably be far better off. However keeping secrets and being idiots will ultimately destroy the Ark. Pigheadedness at its absolute finest.

before the game came out, i thought Founders were evil. turns out they are just stupid. Captian Moko-whatever is the evil one, disobeying orders and tortuting prisoners.

Well, not quite. If one side cooperates and the other doesn't, then the side that tries to play nice is going to get competely [censored]. So, they don't because to play a prisoner's dilemna, here, with maximum surity you need to be the party that doesn't play nice since regardless of what the other side does at least you'll still have a chance to win through war (whereas with cooperation you just have success or total obliteration.)

It's not "pigheadedness," persay, but simply a conservative human reaction to a very bad situation.

A lot of the ending depends on which campaign you choose. A bunch of the details in the campaigns depends on which campaign you choose actually. So maybe at a later date Splash Damage/Bethesda will release the true canonical ending to the ending, but who knows.

Read the audio logs though, it explains a lot. Including the fact that:

So what is BEYOND The Ark? WATER :facepalm:
Seriously though, could make for some fun fan fic

i would really enjoy a "What if" scenario of the Resistance team finding out that it's worse on the land then the ARK, in some small town they get ambushed and have to survive for a certain amount of time, no command base, just pure team cooperation , soldiers filling ammo, healers healing, engineers placing land mines and turrets, and I can't really picture what the op would do as of right now lol.

Maybe have the Operative hack something that is stopping you team from falling back or will reduce the routes the enemy can attack from. Sounds good, although I would prefer it took place in an old Airport. After all, they did escape by plane. Have a security version that takes place on a costal town, where a recent attack on the Ark (kept secret from the Guests, of course) has caused Security to send a 'sweeper squad' to get rid of old data that lead to the Ark and was discovered by change. The Resistance had nothing to do with the discovery of the Data, although maybe have the Captain insinuate that they did...no offense Security, but your leader is a [censored]-bag.

well considering every fled to the Ark to survive the outside world must be filled with RAGE...pun intended lol

seem logical considering the destruction and despair that caused the mess, guess we'll have to pick up Rage to find out the rest of Brink's story lol