DarkUId DarN Help : IV

» Mon May 30, 2011 4:05 pm

I'm having two problems with DarkUId DarN, OBMM install.

First, the player position arrow doesn't work in certain areas. Yes, it IS turned on in both local and world maps. It works in the world map, works in towns and cities, but as soon as I step outside of a town or city and view the local map the position arrow is gone.

Second, the breath meter. I have no idea why, but it has reverted back to vanilla.

I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling and this doesn't fix either issue. Not really sure what mods would conflict with this, the only other UI mod I have is colored world map and disabling it doesn't fix either problem.

» Mon May 30, 2011 9:09 pm

I'm having two problems with DarkUId DarN, OBMM install.

First, the player position arrow doesn't work in certain areas. Yes, it IS turned on in both local and world maps. It works in the world map, works in towns and cities, but as soon as I step outside of a town or city and view the local map the position arrow is gone.

Second, the breath meter. I have no idea why, but it has reverted back to vanilla.

I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling and this doesn't fix either issue. Not really sure what mods would conflict with this, the only other UI mod I have is colored world map and disabling it doesn't fix either problem.

After uninstalling I would recreate the oblivion.ini is case that caused a problem.

Another thing to check is to see if a mod has modified the menus at all, some might.

» Wed May 25, 2011 8:28 am

After uninstalling I would recreate the oblivion.ini is case that caused a problem.

Another thing to check is to see if a mod has modified the menus at all, some might.

So uninstall DarkUId, delete Oblivion.ini, start game, quit, reinstall DarkUId?

» Mon May 30, 2011 6:57 pm

So uninstall DarkUId, delete Oblivion.ini, start game, quit, reinstall DarkUId?

Instead of deleting just rename to oblivion.old so in case you have other changes and this does not fix it you can go back to that.

» Mon May 30, 2011 11:39 pm

Instead of deleting just rename to oblivion.old so in case you have other changes and this does not fix it you can go back to that.

Still the same problem. I have...a lot of mods. I'm not sure which ones may conflict.

» Mon May 30, 2011 6:11 pm

Still the same problem. I have...a lot of mods. I'm not sure which ones may conflict.

With DarnUI there is no esp, it all comes to load order. BAIN helps in that. What I do is install the DarkUI with OBMM first then everything else in BAIN. Look for any mod that would modify the interface as that is probably the one that overwrites.

I don't know for sure how OBMM uses install order to overwrite but if you uninstall DarnUI and still have the missing arrow then there is another mod that does it.

Post your load order, maybe something will jump out.

» Wed May 25, 2011 6:18 am

With DarnUI there is no esp, it all comes to load order. BAIN helps in that. What I do is install the DarkUI with OBMM first then everything else in BAIN. Look for any mod that would modify the interface as that is probably the one that overwrites.

I don't know for sure how OBMM uses install order to overwrite but if you uninstall DarnUI and still have the missing arrow then there is another mod that does it.

Post your load order, maybe something will jump out.

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
Natural Interiors.esm
_Real_Lights.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
darker nights for shivering isles.esp
Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural Interiors - Cities.esp
phinix-waterfix.esp
300_Combat Sounds.esp
MIS.esp
MIS Low Wind.esp
MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
weather inside [seasons] v1.2.esp
Cities Alive At Night.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
AliveWaters.esp
AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
aaaBorsBedrolls.esp
CM_Better Wine_SI.esp
Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
SwampGrass.esp
ImprovedSigns.esp
VA_BetterGold.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
Book Jackets DLC.esp
GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
Beautiful People.esp
Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
Assassin_Blade.esp
BlackLuster.esp
Battledress.esp
BWisteria.esp
c_dragondagger.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
DBShadowSet.esp
DMACArmor.esp
Dreadweave Complete_Heavy.esp
doofdillas_potions_recolored_sorted_v0_3_1.esp
EY_AoD.esp
Nico's Quinga Bows.esp
Doomshard Bow.esp
PTArtifacts.esp
RustyItems.esp
Underworld Armor.esp
shadow lord_normal.esp
Gloria Armor.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
300 Regal Imperial City 2.esp
AL_Maverick.esp
allinonebasemant.esp
Assassin's Hideout v1.1.esp
BravilSeaDomes.esp
hackdirtabyss.esp
MistyHideout.esp
Nocturne.esp
WaterFallCave.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Ruin.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp
Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.esp
ImprovedSoulgems.esp
Larger Ogres and Trolls etc.esp
P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp
PersuasionOverhaul.esp
Quest Award Leveling SI.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
Nightmare.esp
Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
dyseso_Light_Ingred.esp
SM Combat Hide.esp
StealthOverhaul.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
TRN One of the Gang.esp
More_Arrows_Recovered-2169.esp
_darker_dungeons.esp
Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp
_burning_kvatch.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
Get Wet.esp
Real Lava 1.3.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
StealthArmor.esp
UFF & RM Assassin Elite Armor.esp
Plate of the Shadow.esp
Akorithi's Jade Bow.esp
Star's Fury.esp
Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp
The Bow of the Drow.esp
Tehgnark.esp
Lamayo's Dragon Bow.esp
Bow of Quel'Thalas.esp
Arc de Legolas.esp
serpentdagger.esp
Warglaive - Reduced - EV.esp
pegasus_alpha.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
Really Immersive Messages.esp
100_Greenacre Cave V1.0.esp
Zira's Clydesdale Horses.esp
Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
CT-Com's Torch Compendium.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp

» Mon May 30, 2011 11:51 pm

Fairly sure at this point it's a mod conflicting with DarkUId DarN, but I have no idea how to go about finding which one it might be or why it might be happening.

Load order is in the post above, anyone have any tips on how to find the conflict without having to go through all my mods one by one?

» Mon May 30, 2011 10:45 pm

I don't recognize half those mods, sorry. Could be a mod without an esp that did this too. Looks like you either installed these manually or with OBMM. For what you have, consider using wrye bash. Also, use Enhanced Economy instead of living economy as that is a bit outdated.

As for troubleshooting, if you did these with OBMM then start uninstalling until the problem goes away, I do not think there is a better way. This is where Wrye bash and BAIN are very handy, they show you what files conflict easily and you can move the load order on the fly to resolve these.

» Mon May 30, 2011 5:36 pm

I don't recognize half those mods, sorry. Could be a mod without an esp that did this too. Looks like you either installed these manually or with OBMM. For what you have, consider using wrye bash. Also, use Enhanced Economy instead of living economy as that is a bit outdated.

As for troubleshooting, if you did these with OBMM then start uninstalling until the problem goes away, I do not think there is a better way. This is where Wrye bash and BAIN are very handy, they show you what files conflict easily and you can move the load order on the fly to resolve these.

Yes, most of the mods were installed with OBMM because Wyre Bash is pretty intimidating for me.

I guess I'll start going through mods in OBMM and see if I can't find what's causing the problem.

Thanks for all your help, Peter.

Edit: Problem solved. Issue with Arc de Legolas. Once I disabled that the arrow icon shows up.

» Mon May 30, 2011 2:54 pm

Top notch. Don't know the mod but the name is interesting. Somewhere when you have time, learn Wrye Bash and BAIN, as they can be your best friends, especially when mods conflict. Looks scary but take the time and save yourself alot of headaches in the future. Wrye bash is a must to get some of the great mods to work together.

If I can figure it out, anyone can.

Good luck!