That's an esoteric fragment of a lost text. I was, of course, referring to the education a person in Tamriel would receive. Even if it was part of official ideology back in the day, I doubt most people in the Third Era would believe the story of Hrol in a literal sense. Hasphat Antabolis doesn't.

That is one heck of a story!

Well I want to believe that Hrol did have six with a hillock and baby Reman popped out!

And in freaky Chuckie style spoke proclaiming he is Cyrodiil come.

No, it was more like James Earl Jones.

I came back with the hope that my posts could elucidate the media and maybe, just maybe, even elevate the conversation. You came back to make posts like these. Maybe we are, in the words of the Liberator, ploughing the sea, but what is the point of this? You wrote something marvelous once, this kind of thinking does not come from that place.

Are you sure you have comprehended my posts?

I'm simply talking about the meaning of source material in the context of the universe, and how they would appear to a person in Tamriel. Somehow this seems to be setting off alarms in everyone's heads, but I have neither said nor implied anything about the forum politics of mythic truth, dev vs dev or BATW. I'm not complaining about Oblivion's bad lore, I'm explaining how that lore functions in the world. Consider the conversation elevated.

A conversation involving "a person in Tamriel" and "in the world" is a decidedly unelevated conversation. It robs this whole thing of meaning and is better than the most inane, familiar threads in its breadth of knowledge alone. I'm quite sure I comprehended your posts.

Oh, right because the books in the game are actually about the developers and written for the people on the forums. I forgot.

Let me know if you disagree with any particular points, or if you're just peeved that I mentioned a text from Oblivion without kvetching about continuity.

So its you who don't comprehend.

The Remanada and Oblivion's MQ were written by different people for different purposes. Because there is tension between the cohesive texts of one author's cohesive vision and the overarching collaborative work, you discuss where they intersect as if they were real texts read by real Tamrielic people. Elder Scrolls lore is made up of documents scattered around a universe of individuals. The Remanada is best read in the context of a universe with just the one writer in it, where setting and historical continuity aren't entirely the point. To demand that certain texts always conform to the central ideal and never be matched up to the collaborative world, with its different standards, is asinine and fruitless. I'm more than capable of considering the source material both ways and I do so.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've expressed myself as vaguely as possible, so we will only be able to continue this conversation if there is some sort of reciprocal agreement concerning pragmatic communication.

I see from the Commentary that you don't know who I am, confrater. Do you know now? I am vague not to be an obscurantist but to adhere to a draconian set of rules that we are both very familiar with.

And Proweler, you are very unkind to lead him on like that.

I was bored...and I noticed that the reason why Mankar wanted the Amulet was to prevent the Empire from breaking it,summoning Akatosh and banishing Dagon - which happened.
And I guess the Mythic Dawn are in a way spiritual successors to the Ayleids.Both made pacts with the Daedra.
Come to think of it, Ocato would be the mastermind behind everything.

Hence the look of Cameron's palace in Paradise.

I think he more just didn't want the Temple of the One lit. And also by him wearing the Amulet, he was conferring Alessia's pact and legitimacy to rule onto himself.

Buh, wha? Where'd that come from? You could make an argument for Tharn (and I do), but Ocato? In the list of things we've seen him do, he's sat in a chair, lit a torch, and asked Nu-Hatta of the Sphinxmoth Inquiry Tree why they were being lectured like a schoolchild. Where'd you get Ocato?