CTD and savegame being corrupt : IV

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:37 am

Is the first time I have something like that. It started at with my character at level 11 and around 20 dungeons done. Any idea? Here is my load order:

EDIT: Oh, oh... this is not going well. Isnt only afther to sell some things. Is afther, just afther, as if there is a moment where it is imposible to save the game.

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Oblivion.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmMart's Monster Mod for OOO.esmBetterMusicSystem.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish - SI.espNaturalWeather.espNaturalWater.espNaturalVegetation.espWindowLightingSystem.espAlluring Potion Bottles v2.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espFlyingCameraMod.espUltimate 3rd Person Camera.espBetterMusicSystem(SI).espPose Thumbnail Poses 1.1.espactors_in_charge.espSpell Delete And Item Remove.espEnhanced Economy.espCrowded Roads.espImmersive Travelers.espDuke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.espEnhanced Hotkeys.espMap Marker Overhaul.espMap Marker Overhaul - SI additions.espEvantal's Dual Wielding.espCSR - Fine Iron.espCSR - Golden Saint.espSlof's Eyren Armours.espUnderworld Armor.espWyrmfang.espThe Bow of the Mongolian Horseman.espHGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.espkernsJewelry.espGrowlfs Animated Hair.espRing of console.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espOOO-DLT_Remover.espMart's Monster Mod for OOO.espMart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.espMart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.espMart's Monster Mod for OOO - LessReaversInGates.espMart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.espMart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espMart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.espMart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.espKnights of the Nine Disinstaller 1_4.espThe Lost Spires.espThe Lost Spires_delayer.espxulStendarrValley.espxulTheHeath.espXulEntiusGorge.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulAncientYews.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulArriusCreek.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulRollingHills_EV.espxulPantherRiver.espxulRiverEthe.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulImperialIsle.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulAspenWood.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espxulSnowdale.espxuldarkforest.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espOOO-Snowdale Patch.espLostSpires-DarkForest patch.espLostSpires-Everglade patch.espAlchemistsCave.espGoldCoinBagger.espDrop Lit Torches Weight.espDungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.espExterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.espLess Capacity Encumbrance.espRealistic_Armor_Weights-2194.espRealistic_Weapon_weights-3534.espNoEncumberedSwimming.espkuerteeDeathHasPenalties.espNoBackwardsRunning.espRealSleepExtended.espWizardLock.espBasicInstinct.espSetEssentialActors.espP1DkeyChain.espkuerteeNoLootingDuringCombat.espkuerteeLootingDeadGuardsIsStealing.espDenock Arrows.espDMC Stylish - Specialanims.espDeadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 2.5x damage.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espDuke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.espDuke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espDuke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.espDuke Patricks - Smash of the Titans.espOblivion XP.espDark Dungeons.espDark Dungeons -  SI.espDKImperials.espSPAWN.esp[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.espDuke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.espkuerteeCleanUp.esp

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:21 pm

Have you tried going to an earlier save and trying it then?

Have you recently uninstalled any mods?

Are your mods correctly ordered by BOSS?

Are you running the latest versions of your mods and the latest OBSE?

Ideally you should be running Wrye Bash as well, but I don't see a bashed patch...

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:33 pm

:shocking: That LO really needs to be sorted, so just install the latest version there is of both http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1126021-relz-boss-better-oblivion-sorting-software/ and http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1136734-relz-wrye-bash-thread-54/ on your PC.

Then you have done that, please post your LO here so anyone else can take a look of that LO and try to help you. :user:

EDIT: I forgot to tell you about http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1131224-relz-oblivion-script-extender-obse-0019/.

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:55 am

Yep, thanks for providing the links - I was just going to grab and post the links myself but you beat me to it!

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:03 am

Yes, I have the last version of OBSE and BOSS. I have not Whyre, but I dont think this is the problem. It seems as my game became unstable afther 5,41 mb of savegame.

I uninstalled See you to sleep, but that was long ago. I did it because it stopped to work.

Well, I understand... My game is corrupt... I have to restart

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:55 pm

I have a very large but stable load order but I have occasionly run into this same problem of crashing when saving. The best workaround I've come up with is to load up an earlier save and then leave the cell I am currently in (enter a building or dungeon, or run until the cell changes) and then save the game. This has worked every time for me for the 3 times this has happened to me, which were:

1) Inside the Kvatch Oblivion Gate outside the Sigil Tower. Loading an earlier save, killing all the daedra, then entering the tower and killing the bad guys on the ground floor then saving succesfully
2) Outside the Pale Pass during the Beyond the Vale quest. Loading an earlier save and entering the Pale Pass before saving allowed me to save successfully
3) Inside the Leyawin Oblivion Gate (the one required for the Allies of Bruma quest), inside the Sigil Tower. Loading outside the Tower and entering again was enough to save successfully

I find it curious that the 3 times it happened to me were in Vanilla quest locations but I suppose it could be coincidence. I have played for nearly 250 hours on this character so this is a very rare occurence and noone else has reported having issues at these three locations.

If you are running an autosave mod(kuerrtree's or Streamline) I would disable this until you have left the problematic cell and managed to save successfully. You can then reactivate it and go about your business

My savegame is 12MB in size so the size of your savegame is not an issue. I would second the reccomendation of Wrye Bash because it can also clean your saves by removing bloat (another potential cause of crashing in general). However it can't fix saves that have been corrupted in this way. And if you ultimately want a load order similar to mine then Wrye Bash is essential. Here's my load order to give you an idea:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0B  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0C  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0D  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.5.5]0E  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0F  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]10  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.2]11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]13  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp1A  NaturalHabitat.esp1B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]1C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1D  NaturalWater.esp++  ln.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp1E  AmbientTownSounds.esp1F  MIS Low Wind.esp20  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp21  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp22  PCSoundRhett.esp  [Version 2.6]++  Drum_Fix.esp23  Storms & Sound.esp24  Rainbows.esp25  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]26  WindowLightingSystem.esp27  AliveWaters_nofish.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp28  Chapel Tithe.esp++  Cyrodilic Brandy.esp29  Days&Months.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]2A  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp2B  SoT_Holiday.esp2C  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.0.2]2D  FF_Real_Thirst.esp2E  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]2F  kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp30  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.3]31  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]32  Duke Patricks - Follow That Actor.esp33  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp  [Version 1.8]34  FormID Finder4.esp35  Get Wet - just droplets.esp36  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp37  kuerteeCleanUp.esp38  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp39  Musical Immersion 1.0.esp3A  P1DmenuEscape.esp3B  ScreenControls.esp3C  Streamline 3.1.esp3D  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.7.1]3E  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]3F  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 1.4]40  DLCHorseArmor.esp41  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]42  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]43  DLCOrrery.esp44  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp45  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]46  DLCVileLair.esp47  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]48  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp49  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp4A  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]4B  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV5Beta.esp4C  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp++  CM_Better Wine.esp4D  DLCThievesDen.esp4E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]4F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk UOP.esp50  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]51  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]52  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]53  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp54  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp55  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]56  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]57  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]58  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]59  OCC-OOO-Patch.esp  [Version 2.4]**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]5A  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 2.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]5B  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]5C  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]5D  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]5E  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5F  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]60  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]61  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]62  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]63  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]64  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]65  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]66  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]67  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]68  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]**  TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]69  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]6A  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]**  ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6B  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6C  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  FineWeapons for OOO.esp**  Fransfemale.esp**  RustyItems for OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp6D  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]6E  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]6F  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp**  Kragenir's Death Quest Vwalk.esp70  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp71  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]72  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp73  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]**  The Ayleid Steps Vwalk.esp74  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 2.0.5]**  Cyrodiil Travel Services Vwalk.esp75  za_bankmod.esp76  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp77  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]78  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.30]79  DLCFrostcrag.esp7A  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]7B  OCOD+FrostcragSpire Patch.esp7C  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp7D  Knights.esp7E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]**  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]7F  Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 2.0]80  OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]81  The Lost Spires.esp82  OCC-Lost Spires-Patch.esp  [Version 2.1]**  The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]83  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]84  ElsweyrAnequina.esp++  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp85  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp86  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.8]87  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  Feldscar Vwalk.esp88  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  Vergayun Vwalk.esp89  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]8A  Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp**  Faregyl Vwalk.esp8B  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0]8C  PTMudwater.esp8D  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]8E  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp8F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]90  xulTheHeath.esp91  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp92  XulEntiusGorge.esp93  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]94  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]95  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp96  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]97  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]**  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp98  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]99  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp9A  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]**  xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp9B  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]9C  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]9D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]9E  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]9F  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.espA0  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]A1  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]A2  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]A3  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.espA4  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.espA5  xulPantherRiver.espA6  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]A7  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]**  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.espA8  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.espA9  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]AA  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]AB  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]**  xulAspenWood Vwalk.espAC  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.espAD  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]AE  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]AF  OOO-Snowdale Patch.espB0  Duke Patricks - HammerBlade.esp  [Version 2.9]B1  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.1]B2  Open Cities Outer Districts.esp  [Version 3.5.5]B3  Open Cities Reborn - Full Merge.esp  [Version 0.6.3]B4  OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp  [Version 2.2]++  OCC-COBL-Wells.espB5  NRB4+UL-II+LtPD+OCOD Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.2]B6  OCLR+ULBWForest Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]B7  NaturalVegetation.espB8  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]B9  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Cobl Bookplacement.espBA  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 1.2]BB  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espBC  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp++  GotNoClass.espBD  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]BE  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]BF  ReneersGoldMod.espC0  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.espC1  Soulgem Magic.esp  [Version 1.0]C2  Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.espC3  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.espC4  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]C5  Roleplaying Dialogues.espC6  Quest Award Leveling SI.espC7  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espC8  OWE&P.espC9  RealisticForceMedium.espCA  RealisticMagicForceLow.espCB  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]CC  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.espCD  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]CE  MidasSpells.espCF  OC+Midas Magic Patch.espD0  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.espD1  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.espD2  Friendlier Summons.espD3  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.espD4  StealthOverhaul.espD5  DD_ProximitySneakPenalty.espD6  Morrowind Lockpicking.espD7  RenGuardOverhaul.espD8  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 3.4.1]D9  BetterBlocking.esp  [Version 1]DA  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp  [Version 7.1]DB  Duke Patricks - Everyone Or Just Vampires Now Bob And Weave.espDC  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espDD  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp  [Version 4]DE  nGCD.esp++  nGCD Birthsigns.espDF  nGCD Oghma Infinium.espE0  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]E1  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]E2  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]E3  ProgressRacial.espE4  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Immediate Character Generation.esp**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.espE5  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.2]**  1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp++  1em_Vilja OOO FCOM Fix.espE6  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]E7  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]**  bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E8  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E9  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]EA  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]EB  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]EC  Automatic Timescale.esp  [Version 1.1.1]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.espED  Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]EE  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp++  Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.espEF  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]**  NRB4 OCReborn Road Record.esp++  CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]F0  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]F1  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Hope I'm able to help.

Artorius.

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:12 pm

This is good help. I will restart the game but I will also take a look into your load order. Thank you!

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:36 pm

This is good help. I will restart the game but I will also take a look into your load order. Thank you!

I wouldn't attempt to do it all at once,that way will lead to certain disaster. If you want an FCOM Load Order start with the core mods only. Go to this http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1122753-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/ and read it carefully and follow the instructions to the letter and you should do fine. You must use Wrye Bash for this, you will find the link for that in that thread. Don't get too disheartened if it doesn't work the first time, it's all part of the learning process

. If you dig far enough into the FCOM threads you may find my early fumbling attempts.

Happing modding.

Artorius.

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:01 pm

Hey Artorius,

Im not planing with instal FCOM now. I will use MMM for some time more before do mi life more complicated but I like some of the mods on your list. Is Map marker overhaul compatible with Enhanced Daedric Invasion?

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:17 pm

Hey Artorius,

Im not planing with instal FCOM now. I will use MMM for some time more before do mi life more complicated but I like some of the mods on your list. Is Map marker overhaul compatible with Enhanced Daedric Invasion?

Oh yes certainly, I don't think there is any mod that MMO (Map Marker Overhaul) is uncompatible with except perhaps other mods that allow you to modify the map icons. I have just today trimmed my modlist since I was getting too close to the limit. There is a hard limit of 255 active esps not merged into wrye bash and also a soft limit of approx 400(not sure about the exact total-it's possibly different on other systems) esp/esm/bsa files in your data folder. I was getting too close to the soft limit and it was making my game unstable. I removed all of the DLCs that I don't use, and all their associated patches which saved a total of 35 esps! Here is my revised modlist, it's still fairly large but my game is more stable now:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0B  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0C  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0D  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.5.5]0E  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0F  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]10  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.2]11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]13  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp1A  NaturalHabitat.esp1B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]1C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1D  NaturalWater.esp++  ln.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp1E  AmbientTownSounds.esp1F  MIS Low Wind.esp20  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp21  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp22  PCSoundRhett.esp  [Version 2.6]++  Drum_Fix.esp23  Storms & Sound.esp24  Rainbows.esp25  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]26  WindowLightingSystem.esp27  AliveWaters_nofish.esp28  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp29  Chapel Tithe.esp++  Cyrodilic Brandy.esp2A  Days&Months.esp2B  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp2C  SoT_Holiday.esp2D  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.0.2]2E  FF_Real_Thirst.esp2F  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]30  kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp31  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.3]32  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]33  Duke Patricks - Follow That Actor.esp34  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp  [Version 1.8]35  FormID Finder4.esp36  Get Wet - just droplets.esp37  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp38  kuerteeCleanUp.esp39  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp3A  Musical Immersion 1.0.esp3B  P1DmenuEscape.esp3C  ScreenControls.esp3D  Streamline 3.1.esp3E  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.7.1]3F  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]40  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 1.4]41  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp42  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp43  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]44  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV5Beta.esp45  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp++  CM_Better Wine.esp46  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]47  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]48  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp49  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4A  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4B  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]4C  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]4D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]4E  OCC-OOO-Patch.esp  [Version 2.4]**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]4F  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 2.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]50  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]52  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]54  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]56  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]57  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]58  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]59  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5A  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5B  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]5C  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]**  TamrielTravellers4OOO Vwalk.esp++  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]5D  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]5E  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]**  ShiveringIsleTravellers Vwalk.esp++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5F  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]60  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]61  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  FineWeapons for OOO.esp**  Fransfemale.esp**  RustyItems for OOO.esp**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp62  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]63  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]64  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp**  Kragenir's Death Quest Vwalk.esp65  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp66  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]67  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp68  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]**  The Ayleid Steps Vwalk.esp69  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 2.0.5]**  Cyrodiil Travel Services Vwalk.esp6A  za_bankmod.esp6B  Knights.esp6C  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]**  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]6D  OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]6E  The Lost Spires.esp6F  OCC-Lost Spires-Patch.esp  [Version 2.1]**  The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]70  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]71  ElsweyrAnequina.esp++  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp72  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp73  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.8]74  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  Feldscar Vwalk.esp75  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  Vergayun Vwalk.esp76  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]77  Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp**  Faregyl Vwalk.esp78  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0]79  PTMudwater.esp7A  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]7B  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp7C  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]7D  xulTheHeath.esp7E  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp7F  XulEntiusGorge.esp80  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]81  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]82  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp83  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]84  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]**  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp85  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]86  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp87  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]**  xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp88  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]89  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]8A  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]8B  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]8C  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp8D  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]8E  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]8F  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]90  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp91  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp92  xulPantherRiver.esp93  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]94  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]**  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp95  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp96  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]97  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]98  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]**  xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp99  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp9A  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]9B  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]9C  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp9D  Duke Patricks - HammerBlade.esp  [Version 2.9]9E  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.1]9F  Open Cities Outer Districts.esp  [Version 3.5.5]A0  Open Cities Reborn - Full Merge.esp  [Version 0.6.3]A1  OCC-ULCH-Patch.esp  [Version 2.2]++  OCC-COBL-Wells.espA2  NRB4+UL-II+LtPD+OCOD Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.2]A3  OCLR+ULBWForest Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]A4  NaturalVegetation.espA5  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Cobl Bookplacement.espA6  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 1.2]A7  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espA8  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp++  GotNoClass.espA9  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]AA  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]AB  ReneersGoldMod.espAC  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.espAD  Soulgem Magic.esp  [Version 1.0]AE  Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.espAF  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.espB0  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]B1  Roleplaying Dialogues.espB2  Quest Award Leveling SI.espB3  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espB4  OWE&P.espB5  RealisticForceMedium.espB6  RealisticMagicForceLow.espB7  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]B8  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.espB9  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]BA  MidasSpells.espBB  OC+Midas Magic Patch.espBC  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.espBD  Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.espBE  Friendlier Summons.espBF  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.espC0  StealthOverhaul.espC1  DD_ProximitySneakPenalty.espC2  Morrowind Lockpicking.espC3  RenGuardOverhaul.espC4  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 3.4.1]C5  BetterBlocking.esp  [Version 1]C6  Duke Patricks - 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Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]D8  Automatic Timescale.esp  [Version 1.1.1]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.espD9  Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]DA  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp++  Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.espDB  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]**  NRB4 OCReborn Road Record.esp++  CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]DC  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]DD  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Artorius.

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:52 am

I will play with EDI then. I didnt install this mod because I didnt like the idea of lots of deads NPC′s, but that was long ago. My game needs some extra violence now.

I see you are a fan of "DukePatricks". I sugest you also Duke Patricks - Smash of the Titans. There is a lot of fun with this.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:55 pm

I will play with EDI then. I didnt install this mod because I didnt like the idea of lots of deads NPC′s, but that was long ago. My game needs some extra violence now.

I see you are a fan of "DukePatricks". I sugest you also Duke Patricks - Smash of the Titans. There is a lot of fun with this.

Well as long as you are fairly prompt at closing Oblivion Gates NPC Fatalities should be minimal, and a few dead guards aren't going to change anything in the game. I had a really epic moment using this mod. I was near Anvil and came accross an Oblivion Gate; I think it was the one for the Allies of Bruma quest; and outside it spawned a Balrog(MMM is responsible for these beasties). However instead of attacking me it ran towards the city(Programmed by Enhanced Daedric Invasion). Vilya(I really reccomend this companion mod, she is so fun and fully voiced by Emma) and I persued it and we caught up with it outside the city gates (Open Cities Reborn means the city is in the Tamerial Worldspace, so the Balrog was literally outside the city gates!). And so a desperate fight began to prevent this Balrog from slaughtering everyone in the city. Myself, Vilya and the Anvil City Guard fought the Balrog, several guards were killed but finally it was brought down. I haven't had other moments like it; I think I'm too effiecient at closing Oblivion Gates; but that experience alone is worth installing the mentioned mods.

I've heard of that Duke Patrick mod, but I think it's an old one that's no longer available.

Artorius.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:13 pm

Is old but available,

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23541

It makes for lots of "epic coward" moments. Run away from a troll on the night, stop and think: "yes, he is away, uff...", turn your head and see your character fly. It also makes the game more difficult and challenging, you fear big enemys, as it should be. The epic moment you write about could have been a visual spectacle with this.

How powerfull is your pc? I have the OOO+MMM comboI and I added EDI. Im thinking in Open Cities but I fear to ask for too much to my laptop.

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:59 pm

Here are my system specs:

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Processor Information:
Vendor: AuthenticAMD
Speed: 2611 Mhz
4 logical processors
4 physical processors
HyperThreading: Unsupported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Supported
SSE41: Unsupported
SSE42: Unsupported

Network Information:
Network Speed:

Operating System Version:
Windows 7 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 323 0x0 0x0 0x0

Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

DirectX Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll
Driver Version: 8.17.12.5721
DirectX Driver Version: 8.17.12.5721
Driver Date: 7 June 2010
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 59 Hz
DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
VendorID: 0x10de
DeviceID: 0x3d0
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1366 x 768
Desktop Resolution: 1366 x 768
Primary Display Size: 18.98" x 10.67" (21.73" diag)
48.2cm x 27.1cm (55.2cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: 256 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x

Sound card:
Audio device: Speakers (Realtek High Definiti

Memory:
RAM: 2815 Mb

As you can see I have a pretty good CPU and nearly 3Gb of RAM, but I only have a Graphics Card that has 256Mb of VRAM. Yet I can safely run the mods that I do. If your laptop has similar specs then you should have no problems. Certainly Open Cities has very little impact on performance as Arthmoor (the mod author) will attest. At worst you might have a 2-3 FPS drop compared to before.

Artorius.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:09 pm

My system is older but I have a good graphic card. I think I still have 2-3 Fps for pay anyways.

Well, I was searching a solution for a problem but I changed at all my game afther to see your load order. Thankyou very much also for the hints. I will play for some time and come back soon for change everything again. I allways swear: "This is the last, this is my final oblivion, I will never add or drop a mod..." and afther 2-3 months I change all, so it will happen again.

Have fun!

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:47 pm

My system is older but I have a good graphic card. I think I still have 2-3 Fps for pay anyways.

Well, I was searching a solution for a problem but I changed at all my game afther to see your load order. Thankyou very much also for the hints. I will play for some time and come back soon for change everything again. I allways swear: "This is the last, this is my final oblivion, I will never add or drop a mod..." and afther 2-3 months I change all, so it will happen again.

Have fun!

Welcome to the affliction that we all suffer from here; moditis. We all say to ourselves "we won't add any further" and then we see something else and it's "ooh! new shiny thing, I must have it!". Good luck in the world of modded Oblivion.

Artorius.