If the Eight are the Spokes of the wheel : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:31 am

Well, all this recent talk about the Player Character having CHIM is pretty annoying I think, and unneeded. Everyone's ruining the game for everyone else; that is, we are no longer heroes, we're all gods. Where once a fabulous and enigmatic theosophy was the path to CHIM, it's now turned into some half arsed definition for doing what we should be doing anyway, known as simple roleplaying.

R2-D2 survived all 6 star wars films, is the FORCE WITH R2-D2? Does that means the robot has CHIM too?

Roll around in hot sloppy win.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:27 pm

Well, all this recent talk about the Player Character having CHIM is pretty annoying I think, and unneeded. Everyone's ruining the game for everyone else; that is, we are no longer heroes, we're all gods. Where once a fabulous and enigmatic theosophy was the path to CHIM, it's now turned into some half arsed definition for doing what we should be doing anyway, known as simple roleplaying.

R2-D2 survived all 6 star wars films, is the FORCE WITH R2-D2? Does that means the robot has CHIM too?

That's honestly the way I'm beginning to feel as well concerning the whole "PC-CHIM" thing, but perhaps for a different reason. From now on I only want to speak on CHIM concering major in-game characters that actually say words outside of their games, i.e. non-PCs.

But thats just me.

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:12 pm

Something a really not so dumb kid has said once, which directly applies to this thread:

CHIM is not being a dev, though devs do have CHIM. If you figure out what CHIM really is (and some of you are getting very, very close) do yourself and everyone else a favor and shut up. CHIM isn't supposed to be something you can just say, because of you say it you deny what it means. CHIM isn't just its definition, but also the significance of the definition, and if you don't catch the significance the rest kind of flits out.

When you get it you'll say, "but that's impossible." "This statement is false." "Not-five."

Ever wondered why there really isn't a sticky about CHIM around? Or why people (those who really know) just don't go tell outright what CHIM is? Or why it takes 36 Lessons and a couple of Teachings to describe it?
Those who really know what CHIM is and who appreciate it, those know how fragile the whole thing really is, won't tell you what it is unless they see that you are prepared for it. If you're not prepared, like so many of you here in my opinion, the real meaning of CHIM - not its definition, but its real deeper meaning - will elude you and people will not appreciate it. That is why CHIM is a weapon. That's why CHIM breaks so easily.

And that's why telling does not equal realization. Some things need to be figured out by yourself (helping and giving pointers is okay, but not teling) or else you miss the whole point it.

I rest my case, for evidence, see this very thread.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:31 pm

Well, all this recent talk about the Player Character having CHIM is pretty annoying I think, and unneeded. Everyone's ruining the game for everyone else; that is, we are no longer heroes, we're all gods. Where once a fabulous and enigmatic theosophy was the path to CHIM, it's now turned into some half arsed definition for doing what we should be doing anyway, known as simple roleplaying.

R2-D2 survived all 6 star wars films, is the FORCE WITH R2-D2? Does that means the robot has CHIM too?

I agree on a different level here. I think the TES games are going too far in regards to PC achievements. It might all fall in place with Lore, but it makes things.. difficult. For example in Daggerfall you were a nobody, in a dark scary world (and the game was difficult). In Morrowind you became a half-[censored]-god and in Oblivion .. you became the whole world. Well almost. So what's next? Perhaps we'll be Lorkhan and create the whole thing? Nah.. we'd need programming skills

Btw. we're all off topic here, I was just curious if my outlook on the cosmic picture was right, didn't have anything to do with CHIM.