Hi, straight to the point, one of the patches for http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13834 , is with an addon mod to Elsweyr The Deserts of Anequina called Tales of Anequina overlapping the UL Barrowfields mod, and from the Readme, looks like something to avoid (both Barrowfields and the patch) for people using lower end hardware (on a laptop with HD5730M and uptodate drivers) so atm in the process of trying to weed out any heavy use culprits to minimise crashing, and still have room for other bigger mods

heres the Readme
Unique Landscapes Bravil Barrowfields is sort of a rough, dirty, expansive, mod and comes
with the hazards associated with using that sort of a mod. The treatment is practically as bad as the
illness. In order to resolve the severe conflicts between these mods, this patch had to get bigger,
badder, dirtier, and uglier than Bravil Barrowfields. It involved stripping down that mod to nothing but
landform and cutting out conflicts. Then it involved creating a mod with nothing but the landform from
seven cells in Tales from Elsweyr anequina. Then the two mods were merged. The landscape tears
were zipped up. Then the new mod was slaved to Bravil Barrowfields. Then the objects were
adjusted to not float or be submerged.

Havent looked at the other Elsweyr patches yet but this sounds exceptional. Ive got the OMOD of UL Compilation and it says it offers to choose which mods to install so im guessing to play it safe and leave Barrowfields off the list. What do the mod lords think?

I find UL Bravil Barrowfields to be pretty system intensive.

thanks Psymon, ill strike that up as 1 for keeping Barrowfields off the list, will take your word its instensive but only seen the north road leaving Braveel (not much)

Barrowfields is probably the only UL I'd also class as system intensive. It's got ALOT of stuff packed close together.

That said, I think whoever put that italicized description together was exaggerating things by quite a bit.

Unless you have a lower end system, you should get away with it. I didn't have problems on a laptop with a HD3650M, so I don't see how you will.

By the way, the guy who wrote that is David Brasher. I think you may remember him from something Arthmoor.

thanks, good enough for me, will leave it off the list then




thanks, id agree its probably fine without too much extra stuff thrown in, but looking for milage, so for example not going to use any better trees or weather mods, and even cautious to install AEVWD (or Tamerial Height maps recommended to use with it), the readme for AEVWD has comments by one of the testers, showing 30 fps standing still with an optimised uGridsDistantCount and uGridDistantTreeRange set to 18 but set to 25 seeing only 14fps, and thats using a desktop HD4870 which still kills my laptop

Sorry, but that's garbage right there. Bravil Barrowfields is big and dense and so causes a lot of system strain, but calling it rough and dirty is a terrible dis-service. All the ULs are very clean (much cleaner than most other mods that edit worldspaces) and Bravil Barrowfields simply can't be called "rough": it's quite amazingly well put together, well thought out and thoughtfully arranged. I have to confess, even if my system couldn't handle Bravil Barrowfields, I'd be reluctant to install anything made by someone who wrote rubbish like that. :shakehead:

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Nevermind weird double post see below

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Do you think perhaps he meant rough and dirty as in the content of the landscape and the condition of the architecture? That is how I took it.

On re-reading I can see what you mean.

Seems unlike Mr. Brasher though.

hey would it be a better solution to start the game with Barrowfield installed and wait till ive seen it all before deactiving and reactivating the UL OMOD without it, and then install Tales of Anequena without the need for a patch. My guess is if Barrowfield adds a bit of stain on resouces, adding the patch would further it, but id like to see Barrowfield, and still have Tales of Anequina quests and additions there,

Why not?

To start tales you must meet an NPC that is there right out of the tutorial sewers (just so you know).

darn! so does that mean you also need to start the game normally without using alternate start revamped?

No the NPC will still be there and approach you as soon as you get near the useless pier.

I too used an alt start (arrive by ship).

David Brasher does not like the Unique Landscapes mods, hence his harsh and inaccurate wording. However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and as long as that opinion is not forced upon others, he's free to show his dislike of the UL mods.

That said, all he goes on to describe is the usual process (though taking a very long route to get a result which could have been more quickly and easily achieved without stripping, merging, differencing and "slaving" the ESP) for creating a compatibility patch for two conflicting mods (roughly), making such a big deal of it is unnecessary unless it's his first compatibility patch, in which case it is something to be proud of as so few modders bother with compatibility patches which directly edit the conflicting mods.

Regardless, I have never heard of that patch before, and I do not know where it is available for download from. With that in mind, I (the primary compatibility patch-maker for UL) cannot comment on the success or efficiency of the results of the patch, nor on whether or not it might introduce new conflicts with other mods which weren't conflicting without that patch. Since the description for the patch describes the patch itself as big, bad, dirty and ugly, that serves as a warning that it may not offer the best results.

hi display name, had seen your Unique Lanscapes Project thread here here on the forums so thought best place to ask about this. Tbh, ive yet to see much at UL locations that I didnt mistake for Better City extenstions (forgot I had UL installed lol) but ive installed Tales of Antiqua now, so no Barrowfields this play thru

The link to the patch for it is here http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27302

Thanks, I found the patch shortly after posting my previous comment here
I also read the Comments thread where he talks about UL Bravil Barrowfields. Suffice to say that his descriptions relating to Bravil Barrowfields are 100% incorrect.