[RELz] John's Leveled List Overhaul : IV - Oblivion

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:51 pm

Hi John,

I know I'm past-deadline but you may take a note of http://tesnexus.com/modules/members/index.php?id=341209

Sorry if already suggested - anyway he offers some new amazing weapons/armors/clothes available as MR,
as long credit is given.

His blades are among the current Hot Files on TesNexus.

Have a good evening!

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:52 pm

With http://waalx.com/RealSwordsForum/index.php he released +new+ weapons, armors, creatures and animals - he ususally grants MR permission as long one

1. uses his resources properly (not as fillers for stupid mods)
2. ask him before

[For example, Washington just added to Elsweyr Anequina some of Waalx's creatures http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1144697-relz-wac-elsweyr-anequina-patch/page__p__16733797__hl__washington__fromsearch__1&#entry16733797 ]

This isn't completely true. If you really want to use any of WAC's resources (and I'm not talking about the seperate RealSwords modules) the only right way to do so is by using Waalx own esm and BSA combo as a library. You can't just extract one or two creatures you like from WAC and use it for your own mod, unless he gives personal permission. So in order for John to use any of the current creatures, people would have to download and install the whole WAC package. In short: WAC's esm and BSA can be used as a library, but it isn't a resource from which goodies can be pulled as you see fit. It has to depend on the original WAC files.

As Waalx isn't around at the moment I thought this should be clarified.

Washington's patch for Anequina is set up correctly though. :foodndrink:

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:33 am

why ignore the armors for body mods?

I read John saying that he doesn't want "sixy armors" and I am completely by his side, that would be simply pointless.
But I think he will make a patch for body mods users to prevent weirdness. Of course I am not completely sure about this, don't want to put in his mouth words he didn't say.

EDIT: Isn't time for a new thread, John?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:33 am

why ignore the armors for body mods?

because i dont want that skimpy stuff in my mod, to me its completely unrealistic to see women running around in such attire, plus theres no way to control whether it would appear on a man(and i dont want to see that!!)

Heya John! First off, thanks for JLLO

Been itching to set this up in my FCOM game in the new year.

I thought you might find this TES4Files log useful (it scans your ESP and ESM and list all the files it couldn't find in the package) I'm using hotfix 1.3 and plz ignore the BAIN packaging (I do that to safely merge my pyffied meshes with the main package without overwriting the original files)

Spoiler

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TES4Files V3.43 ERROR FILE

John's Leveled List Overhaul

[X] UNINSTALL FILES
[_] GENERATE BSA File
[_] BSA No Compression
[X] Fix NIF texture paths for BSA
[_] ADD-ON Mode
[X] Extra log text

Tue Nov 30 00:04:06 +0530 2010
=================================================================
-----------> 144340 ID:{JEJEaanicosBlueflameSword} MESH "Weapons/Nicos Ebony Scimitars/Ebony Scimitar.nif"
================> CANNOT READ FILE "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/meshes/Weapons/Nicos Ebony Scimitars/Ebony Scimitar.nif"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/apachiimale/hats/pale_riders hats/gaze.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/armor/bmcchromeebony/f/cuirass.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/armor/DreadKnightArmor/DreadKnightGreaves.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/armor/ghogielsarmor/bonemold/neckcloth.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/armor/greek hero/greek graves.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/armor/growlf/dwemersuit/cetsstraps.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/armor/hircinearmor/boots.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/armor/medieval/stahl/brustharnischimperial.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/Armor/Tyrael Armor/angel5.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/c:/documents and settings/gravy boat/my documents/oblivion mods/gra.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/c:/documents and settings/gravy boat/my documents/oblivion mods/nordic/cape.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/c:/documents and settings/gravy boat/my documents/oblivion mods/nordic/greek cuirass.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/c:/documents and settings/gravy boat/my documents/oblivion mods/various items/adamantiumplate copy.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/c:/documents and settings/gravy boat/my documents/oblivion mods/various items/leather.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/clothes/asmale/asmalebelt_blueblack.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/clothes/robemcblacktest/robemcblack.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/clothes/upperclass/wikinger/rotwei?shirt.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/clothes/upperclass/wikinger/rotwei?shirt5.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/clothes/upperclass/wikinger/rotwei?shirt6.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/clothes/upperclass/wikinger/schwarzgelb01.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/PlateArmor/cuirass.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/skeletonk/nightshade/boots.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/weapons/cryo/tanto.dds"
===> Cannot find file "F:\Johns_Levelled_List_Overhaul_0-1-BAIN\00 Core/textures/weapons/RGJ/RGJ-Katana-Sheath15.dds"
EXPORT DONE! Files: 2715 Bytes: 1766021140 Time: 3 min 49 sec Errors: 43

This could help you track down any potential missing meshes and textures (I edited out vanilla resource references from the log)

It's actually astounding that such a HUGE mod has so few errors! Kudos to you my friend!

PS: I'm seeing unused scimitar textures and meshes that have no reference in the ESM/P (about 14 MB of stuff) along with Nico's ebonyscimitar.nif (which is in a different path - meshes\johnn's mod\weapons\scimitar\ebonyscimitar.nif) and some cave (??) textures

those unused textures were cutouts because i didnt like the quality of them. and thank you for the list, thats a good idea i ahdnt thought of! most of those are actually from Striders Vvardenfell imports and have no relation ingame, so dont worry! the only one of concern is the ebony scimitar one, is anyone missing that mesh?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:50 pm

stupid page thing would let me answer these in the same post, so sry for dp

Hi John,

I know I'm past-deadline but you may take a note of http://tesnexus.com/modules/members/index.php?id=341209

Sorry if already suggested - anyway he offers some new amazing weapons/armors/clothes available as MR,
as long credit is given.

His blades are among the current Hot Files on TesNexus.

Have a good evening!

already suggested, take a look Psymons large list

I read John saying that he doesn't want "sixy armors" and I am completely by his side, that would be simply pointless.
But I think he will make a patch for body mods users to prevent weirdness. Of course I am not completely sure about this, don't want to put in his mouth words he didn't say.

EDIT: Isn't time for a new thread, John?

that is correct masterplan

new thread soon

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:43 pm

Lock this please, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1145321-relz-johns-leveled-list-overhaul/