Or have the friendly bots on Normal always been as competent, if not more, than the enemy bots?
(I seriously wouldn't know, I've only ever played on Easy and Hard, so...)

I just played about an hour and a half's worth of matches on Normal private Freeplay, spanning lvl 14 (Rank 3) to lvl 16 (Rank 4), and for once it was a night of all-round victory and joy. Twice I even managed to spawncamp the enemy, something they used to do to me on a regular basis!

:huh:

So after playing a few defense missions, with the enemy never making it past the first objective, I decided to start up Aquarium and attack as Security... we got the hostage onto the boat without a hitch, with 12 minutes left on the clock, and on Rank 4 Normal difficulty! A mission like that would usually give me grief at a lower rank on Easy. Seriously, I can say that for the first time since I started playing the game, that the bots on my team have been rivalling the enemy bots at the end of the match for XP on the scoreboard.

Is anybody else in heaven, or is it just me going crazy? :woot:

I have played the game mainly as solo campaigns, but with several classes, have 3 rank 4 characters at the moment (Engineer, Medic and Soldier).

One thing I noticed on forums is how Medic Bots never revive.
Even on easy, I have never ever encountered a medic bot that is not instantly reviving, WHEN they have supplies.
The only times medics are not reviving is when you see their medic marker goes white, which I believe, means they are out of supplies, or they are out of range, yes then they stand there.
But as soon as they turn yellow, which in my assumption means they have enough supplies for a revival or health boost, then they do it.

Overall, for me, I am seldom loosing a game, but it appears the bots dont really PUSH until the very last moment. When its 1 minute left on the objective then they march in force.
Before that, I can guard an objective, waiting for an operative or engineer to come by and nothing happens.

At times I have seen operatives, alone, stopping at 95% just to go and watch if an enemy is nearby..loosing us the game. This have been rage moments, but overall its solid.

The current lag issues prevents multiplayer from being as fun as it could be, that said I seldom do encounter lag but its there for sure.

For me, since I got the game, which was on the day of the first patch, I have not encountered the problems people compain about, regarding bots. I find them pretty solid. They are afterall, Bots.

What I would wish for is that friendly engineers and medics would buff more then they currently do.
When I play Medic or Engineer my supply meter is seldom more then 1 or 2 pips, for the occational rez or turret use, I spend all energy on buffs when I can to ensure team is fully optimized.
Wish the bots would be programmed same way.

Soldier bots on the other hand, always refill your ammo. Always. I never run out of ammo as medic or Engineer when I play with bots. They do this better then players by far.

Note: I play on Xbox

Another note: I have mainly played on easy, since I assumed normal and hard would be tougher.
But in my experience, when you have the setting on easy, it tends to be more towards your friendly bots. They still do a decent job.
But man, the enemy bots on easy can be a [censored] at times. And Im not a bad player.

I will try Normal to see if things change a little. Although Bots on easy do revive and refill ammo great, just not buff much, I find the enemy team on easy always have stronger bots.
Then again, that is due to our team have a real player and I think the game then balances around that?

Looking forward trying Normal mode.

PS: I have a blast just playing the game with bots for now to be honest. Definately more then with players since 4vs4 is just not the way the game is supposed to be played. It simply is not working.
Im sure PC players have a better time, and I could have picked it up for the PC but this kind of games I want for the xbox for sure.

Only FPS I will buy for the PC later will be from Battlefield 3. The consoles simply dont have the hardware to come close to the graphical needs of those next generation shooters that are on the horizon.
I just dread the cheaters you have on the PC market, and its the reason I play FPS on console, actually the main reason. But I also find controls to be more fun, and you are surprisingly accurate with the controller, although not the same as mouse of course.

As a fellow PS3 player, I can confirm that while I haven't played today, and only played on Hard yesterday, the AI was as stupid as usual on Normal a few days ago. Maybe the Rapture only sent all the stupid bots to Heaven? Maybe they were the only ones who were right about the timing after all? (what? Someone had to say it...)

Wow. I wouldn't double-post, but this deserves a bump as well as the update.

AI on Normal works! Have to try other difficulties as well, to compare the difference, but Normal difficulty on PS3 has been de-stupid-ed!

Personally, i don't think the bots get more competent the higher the difficulty,they're just as useless as they usually are. I don't have a problem with the friendly medic AI,they come for me even from the other side of the map sometimes,but i do have a problem with the friendly AI not helping with the main objectives. They are always off doing side jobs leaving me to do the main objectives solo. On any other game iv'e played the enemy gets harder the higher the difficulty not my team. On easy,we should be smashing the enemy with no problems regardless of rank,on normal we should see stronger resistance from the opponent, and on hard i should be having some real difficulty. I think they have to balance the friendly AI more making them a bit more aggressive towards main objectives. The way they have it now is backwards.

Well it's good to hear PS3 has taken care of these bugs! I hope that 360 players can get the same feeling soon enough!

Yep, just played some more Normal and swapped it over to Easy for a bit, I'm definitely noticing an improvement of the bots.

I thought it may be that I have Command Post Buffs turned off, but my friendly bots still feel the need to go for them... but overall they seem a lot more competent and the enemy isn't so impossible.

YESSIR THEY HAVE??? SOMEONE MENTIONED THE RAPTURE AND I CAN FEEL IT COMING ON THE BOTS ARE SMARTER!!!!!

The enemy bots still insta-headshot-kill you with SMGs at medium range on Hard though. :mellow:

Note to self; never play Rank 5 Hard EVER again. I like a challenge to get the adrenalin pumping, but I'm no masochist...

Again, Normal/Easy bots on Freeplay still seem to be perfectly fine. I'm enjoying the game a lot more than I have the past couple weeks since I don't have to carry the whole team on my skinny, frail Light shoulders anymore.

I just turned Level 15 and, wow. They're still stupid for me. Not completely braindead like I ranted on about before, but still [censored] stupid. I'm on Nechayev's mission playing medic, and they weren't doing a damn thing to help me. Maybe I have to play a little more.

Had a friend playing over the weekend, and he played on Normal and got to level 9. Apparently, the AI was pretty smart overall - he didn't realise it was set to solo, and thought he'd been playing online. Was wondering how you're meant to pick humans out from the bots.

That can be a good thing OR a bad thing, considering how stupid real people can be... especially in games haha.

Just now I started up a few Normal private Freeplay matches with my main Rank 5 character, and it was nuts. I got stomped and trampled all over the show. Though it could possibly be because it was on the hardest rank. And I wasn't signed in, and as far as I know, the "Versus" option (that appears when you're signed in and enable Freeplay w/ invites/friends) balances AI a lot better.

So I hopped back onto the exact same Rank 4 character as yesterday and played the exact same Freeplay Aquarium mission on Normal... but it felt a lot harder for some reason, and unlike last time, we barely had the escort at the bottom of the ramp with 12 minutes left on the clock.

Still, ended the match with most of my friendly bots out-scoring the enemy bots (one enemy bot even managed 0XP :huh: ), maybe SD are still just tweaking.

This may explain why I thought you guys were bat f***ing nuts when you were flameing the AI
I've only played on normal, so I tryed a Hard match and it seems like your entire team recently
recoverd from a stroke :banghead: :wallbash:

They were completely [censored] when I was playing on Normal before this weekend though. They got BETTER when I turned it up to Hard. And now they work like they should. Hard makes enemies smarter, more aggressive, and better shots, Easy makes them less skilled, and Normal gives your enemies the same skill as your allies.