Modders Made Software : V

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:56 pm

My personal experience sowed me how precious are the tools created for Oblivion. Actually, my game would be impossible even to load without them.
See yourseves:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  Jog_X_Mod.esm03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2.1]04  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]09  VASE - core.esm0A  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0B  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0C  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0D  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0E  The Arsenal.esm0F  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm  [Version 3.0b]10  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5]11  NNWAEMaster.esm12  CM Partners.esm13  HorseCombatMaster.esm14  TRoN.esp**  TRoN Vwalk.esp15  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]16  DLCShiveringIsles.esp17  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.2]++  Shivering OOO.esp**  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp**  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp18  Better Cities .esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp1B  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1C  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  LoadingScreens.esp1E  Natural Selection.esp  [Version 1.0]1F  NaturalHabitat.esp20  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]21  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2.1]22  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]23  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]24  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp25  AmbientTownSounds.esp26  MIS Low Wind.esp27  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp28  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp29  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2.1]2A  WindowLightingSystem.esp2B  AliveWaters.esp2C  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp2D  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp2E  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp2F  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp30  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp++  Cobl Bookjackets.esp31  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp32  ImprovedSigns.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]33  KF Chapel Shop.esp34  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.9]35  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.6.1]36  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.9]37  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]38  PTRoamingNPCs.esp**  PTRoamingNPCs Vwalk.esp39  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]3A  FormID Finder4.esp3B  Get Wet.esp3C  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]3D  Streamline 3.1.esp3E  DLCOrrery.esp3F  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp40  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp**  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk UOP.esp**  Book Jackets DLC.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp41  97_Merged_Armor_Mods.esp42  Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp43  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp44  Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs.esp45  PTArtifacts.esp46  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]47  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp**  Armamentium female.esp48  Slof's Extra Horses.esp49  Slof's Black Unicorn.esp++  Slof's Nightmare.esp4A  CallMountStableMaster.esp++  LadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.esp4B  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]4C  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]4D  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]4E  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4F  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]52  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]53  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]54  Hemingweys Capes Improved for FCOM.esp  [Version 3.0b]++  Hemingweys FCOM OOO Cape Patch.esp  [Version 3.0b]++  Hemingweys FCOM Show Amulets.esp  [Version 3.0b]++  Hemingweys FCOM NPC Capes Improved IC Guards.esp  [Version 3.0b]++  Hemingweys Capes for FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 3.0b]**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]55  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]56  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs - 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Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]B2  CM Partners.espB3  DesuChan's Dolls.esp**  CM Partners Vwalk.espB4  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 3.1]**  1em_Vilja OOO FCOM Fix.espB5  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp**  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espB6  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]**  bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]B7  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]B8  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  VC - LAME VASE twinkle tweak.esp++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]B9  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]BA  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]**  bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp  [Version 0.99]++  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 0.99]**  bgIntegrationEV Vwalk.espBB  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.9.1]BC  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]BD  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.1]**  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition Vwalk.espBE  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 4.8.0]**  Better Imperial City Vwalk.espBF  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.9.0]C0  Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp  [Version 4.7.0]C1  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]C2  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]C3  TheOubliette.esp**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]C4  bgMagicLightningbolt.espC5  BubbleFx.espC6  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp++  CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]C7  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.00]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]C8  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

What I would like to see as soon as the game is released are:
1. SkyMM - equivalent of OBMM
2. Wrye Slash - equivalent of Wrye Bash (hope Wrye will come back from retirement or someone else with knowledge will adopt this crucial tool!)
3. SkySE - equivalent of OBSE
4. Plugin for SkySE
5. SkySR - equivalent of OSR
6. BSSS - equivalent of BOSS
7. TESVEdit, TESVLodGen, TESVView

Hope these will be among the first things to appear.
Can anyone add to the wish list?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:11 pm

That's alot of modding

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:22 pm

He who loves the game, Mods the game.

He who mods the game, has a better game than what he started with.

Im not sure yet, the Creation Kit could have more features that GECK OB CS and MW CS to shame

:tes:

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:17 pm

As long as I can design my dungeon(s) as good as (or better than) the Bethesda dungeoneers, I am happy. I've already started planning out my Uberdungeon. I designed a house in Fallout 3 called Malvilla Manor, but I had barely gotten into serious designing and I thought that house was crap. Great detail, good layout and the perfect size, but a little sloppy nonetheless.

For Skyrim I will go even deeper into it, and I've also started making more concrete plans for doing game design as a serious career choice (world designing and writing/plotting, in my case).

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:25 am

I'm reasonably sure that, regardless of how improved the creation kit and in-game mod managing tools are, modders will still find other things they want. So I expect to see SKMM and SKSE. And those are the only things I've used, so I can't comment on anything else.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:15 pm

We will need some sort of exporting ability, either official or fan made, otherwise modding will never take off to the levels of Oblivion/Morrowind. I'm hoping that with all in-house technology Bethie will be able to release an official 3ds max exporter as they did with TES 3.
Also with the new in-house trees which I believe replaces Speedtree wecould use sort of tree generator ala SpeedTree SDK.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:36 pm

I'm really excited to see what you guys do when you get to work. :-)

There will be at least a couple of us helping out as much as we can.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:36 pm

All from OP post
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NifSkope or similar tool
Scripts for Blender or plugins for Maya of 3dMax
NIBLE or similar tool
CS wiki for aggregating all useful info.
Script highlighter

Something new tools for Havok Behavior

External tools thats already done and can be usable for Skyrim
Texture editor
Height map editor
Lipsynk editor
FaceGen tools
Sound editor

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:03 pm

Something so great like MGE but for Skyrim.
SGE! Skyrim Graphics Extender!
I hope Timeslip will be there making it, he's like a god on making things like that.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:28 pm

A hud and spell making (if its not in)

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:38 am

I'm really excited to see what you guys do when you get to work. :-)

There will be at least a couple of us helping out as much as we can.

Hopefully this means Bethesda will ensure modders can do as much as possible. Nehrim proved that it's up to modders to bring TES games to the next level.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:43 am

I hope, honestly, that a lot of these tools are rendered unnecessary by Beth having sufficient modding tools. I'd love for a mod bug/conflict detection tool that points us to where conflicts are occurring, and I'd also want there to be a better mod management system than the current .esp/.esm system, which breaks too easily.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:30 pm

I hope, honestly, that a lot of these tools are rendered unnecessary by Beth having sufficient modding tools. I'd love for a mod bug/conflict detection tool that points us to where conflicts are occurring, and I'd also want there to be a better mod management system than the current .esp/.esm system, which breaks too easily.

Indeed, I would like an adaptation of the .omod from the OBMM. Something that automatically packages the .esp and any additional files needed like models and textures into one easy install file.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:30 pm

I hope, honestly, that a lot of these tools are rendered unnecessary by Beth having sufficient modding tools. I'd love for a mod bug/conflict detection tool that points us to where conflicts are occurring, and I'd also want there to be a better mod management system than the current .esp/.esm system, which breaks too easily.

Ive been wondering why modders hadn't made something that did that... I had thought wrye bash did that but I guess it does not.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:49 am

I'm really excited to see what you guys do when you get to work. :-)

There will be at least a couple of us helping out as much as we can.

Need an exporter for 3DS Max

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:59 pm

I hope, honestly, that a lot of these tools are rendered unnecessary by Beth having sufficient modding tools. I'd love for a mod bug/conflict detection tool that points us to where conflicts are occurring, and I'd also want there to be a better mod management system than the current .esp/.esm system, which breaks too easily.

It would be nice, but Beths development tools aren't made for managing hundreds of mods. I do hope they do a better job with their DLC's now, which broke quite a few things in the main game.

Ive been wondering why modders hadn't made something that did that... I had thought wrye bash did that but I guess it does not.

Huh? What are you talking about? Conflict detection: TES4View/TES4Edit can do exactly that. Mod managing: Wrye Bash or Oblivion Mod Manager.

I just hope exporters for models and a NifSkope-ish program are available soon so we can start porting our own stuff.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:06 am

We will need some sort of exporting ability, either official or fan made, otherwise modding will never take off to the levels of Oblivion/Morrowind. I'm hoping that with all in-house technology Bethie will be able to release an official 3ds max exporter as they did with TES 3.
Also with the new in-house trees which I believe replaces Speedtree wecould use sort of tree generator ala SpeedTree SDK.

I'm guessing that Skryim won't use NIF as its file format so hopefully we'll get more than just an exporter and they'll either use a common format or at least if its proprietary we'll get some real documentation on the format. I really hope we get some info on this soon. File formats and such would have had to have been finalized a looong time ago

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:00 am

interesting to see that you have hentai mods.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:09 pm

interesting to see that you have hentai mods.

Of course I do have them and several are merged in 97_Merged_Armor_Mods.esp

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:43 pm

I would love and HOPE that the creators of these mods and many others can come together to crate one robust program that does all of this and then some, include a modder version that includes nifskope and other such things and a player version that only has what you need to play your mods (manager, installer, script extender, conflict detector).

Also I hope that the Creation Kit will come with a simple way of turning larger mods into .exe files.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:10 am

I think I'll let the actual programmers of this community that grace us with their presence decide what we do or do not need. They have done an increasingly thorough job with each release so I feel we will be in good hands.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:39 pm

Need an exporter for 3DS Max

and in solidarity blender :user: