All new members?I did not get one.

I didn't get one either; the lore people don't give out fishy sticks much. Eventually, I gave myself one.

To both of you, have a http://www.uesp.net/w/images/Fishystick.jpg!

Don't eat the Lore Fishy Sticks, I'm pretty sure Prowler poisons them.

Nor did I. I think there should be a sticky to warn first time posters that if they post in the lore section they are statistically less likely to receive Fishy Stick. As I did not know this.

Just because they can Eat and Drink doesn't mean they have to. They could be eating and drinking for sole pleasure, indulging themselves in something that isn't needed to survive.

The Dremora appear to serve out of the desire for protection and a belief that their order creates a protective bond, but they make it plain that their service to Mehrunes Dagon is not an existential necessity and is not a permanent relationship:


And some of the intelligent lesser Daedra are independent, almost to the point of being free agents:


I don't think the link is of a nature that makes a lesser Daedra's continued existence contingent on maintaining the link to his Prince. They serve a Prince because they receive some benefit, but they consciously or unconsciously choose to do so. They would not starve the way the Tribunal was starved by long-denied access to the Heart of Lorkhan, but they would at least in the case of the Dremora be vulnerable to those that would prey upon them.

I didn't necessarily mean to imply that they had to for survival. But the facts that one - they can at all and two - they do find it pleasurable says something about their biology.

Eating and drinking aren't the only unnecessary things that daedra can do for pleasure.

Like [censored] people trying to complete a pilgrimage.

Yesyesyesyes thats what im saying those are complex organs needed to eat people and [censored] things and you wouldn't install them just for pleasure because they are the higher maintenance body parts think of all the money spent on peptobismol and viagra if an organism didn't need them theyd leave them out. do deadra have DNA? does the TES universe even use DNA? if they do it works diffrent then our own as "the mothers traits are always dominant" is not what I learned junior-high biology.

And there are no toilets anywhere! and not all NPCs eat or sleep Deadra worshipers and bandits don't and neither does the PC except to level up maybe we need to broaden our discussion what are the bodily requirements of Nords vs Bosmer vs Argonians vs Deadra or maybe im rambling.

Do Dremora actaully have unspeakables?

I mean Twilights have boobies.

Yes you would if you're the bodily incarnation of a myth or concept. Daedra are not people. Their body is mythopoeic, not biologic.


No.

Instead, there's blood and myth. What else could be needed?


Because toilets are irrelevant to the story. The game is not created to scale, and does not contain all that should exist. For example, you've got yarn and you've got clothes, but you have no knitting needles. Why? Because there's only so much useless-for-the-hero clutter that can be created and placed into the game.

I do of course realize that toilets where left out because they where irrelevant to the game. but as devils advocate I feel obligated to point out that the absence opens other options. Knitting and yarn for example, the only reason we assume that they knit is because we knit. They might make cloths using a completely alien process. Perhaps there is a method to make a blouse using apples, calipers and a water breathing spell that modern terrestrial science isn't yet equipped to understand. There could be no toilets because they aren't needed. There are references to hunger here and there but I never heard anyone even mention needing a bathroom. isnt it funnier if we don't make assumptions?

Well, how would that Dremora in Maar Gan perform necrophilia on pilgrims that he's killed? He clearly states his plans to do so when he attacks you.

Hah, yes that pilgrimage was interesting.

Though don't take it seriously. The Dremora is saying it only to goad you, and probably out of it's utter boredom, I doubt the Temple would allow it's disciples to be [censored] by Dremora!

But then again I might doubt a humble priest could do much against such a mighty dremora lord who has just killed a nerevarine to be. (is that an actual word?)

You never know...

here and there? A big part of Cyrodiils populace that died during the Oblivion Crisis did not do so by the hand of daedric creature, but simply because someone in their neighbourhood decided that they were so hungry they could totally steal an apple from that guy over there.

Humble priests in the service of Three Living Gods. The Dremora are only there becuase of the Tribunal. They'd leave otherwise.