The Empire is law

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:17 pm

The elves are losing more and more power. Even the High Elves are going through revolution to be more like humans (the Beautiful) and the Bosmer are becoming more and more feral. The Dunmer are more similar to men than their fellow mer. The last hope for the mer is a return of the Ayleids, and that will be another revolution from Cyrodiil. And the Aedra are all Cyrodiil, the emporer became a god and achieved CHIM, and the latest of the line became a Avatar of the most powerful Akatosh, and Cyrodiil's champion mantled the other side of the coin and became Lorkhan. Cyrodiil is the heart of the Mundus which is the center of the wheel of Aurbis.

Even if Cyrodiil loses power now, they will regain it.



"Syndicates of wizards have been boycotting Imperial goods!"

"the Altmer have powerful Wizards..."


Ring a bell?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:44 pm

"Syndicates of wizards have been boycotting Imperial goods!"

"the Altmer have powerful Wizards..."
Ring a bell?


It's a long quote, but very relevant.

In the last few years, Summerset Isle has been at peace with its neighbors. To all outward appearances, it has returned to its normal state of unchanging tranquility. In fact, the Altmer are perhaps the most bitterly divided society in the Empire. The war in the province today is a cultural one, which has its origins with the surrender to Tiber Septim four centuries ago which shook Altmer society to its foundation. While in Skyrim and Morrowind more blood has been shed in recent years, this struggle between the old and the new may have even more radical end results. The very future of the oldest province in the Empire of Tamriel is at stake.

For thousands of years, the Altmer have implicitly believed in their superiority to all other races and cultures in Tamriel. For much of this time, they may have been right. But after the incorporation of Summerset into the Empire, doubts began to creep in. With the insularity of the Summerset decisively broken, many Altmer, particularly the young (which among the High Elves is a fairly loose term), began to take a more critical view of the rigid hierarchy of Altmer society and its strict cultural xenophobia. While there had always been discontent on the fringes of Altmer society, which was traditionally resolved by exile of the malcontents, for the first time a significant element of Altmer began to agitate for social change.

This nascent revolution in the Summerset Isle has taken many forms. Most constructive, surely, is the acceptance of new cultures and races onto its shores, some occupying positions that would have been forbidden just a century ago. The Queen of Firsthold, for example, is the Dunmer Morgiah, daughter of Barenziah and sister of the King of Morrowind, Helseth. Her children, Goranthir and Rinnala, though half-Altmer, are fully Dunmer in appearance, and stand to inherit the throne.

A darker side of this movement, however, is exhibited by a shadowy group who call themselves the Beautiful. Originally a salon for artists with the reasonable philosophy that Summerset must let go of its past in order to move forward, the Beautiful became a revolutionary gang dedicated to the destruction of the greatest monuments of Altmer civilizations. The Crystal Tower was naturally an early target, and fortunately attempts against it have failed, but many other great, ancient sculptures and emblems of the past have been vandalized. Lately, the Beautiful have turned their attention to living symbols of the Isle, the royalty of Summerset. The particularly gruesome murder of the daughter of the King of Shimmerene has horrified and outraged the public.


The Altmer culture is crumbling, due to Imperial influence. It's changing. The traditional merish culture is giving away to mannish influence. At the same time, the Bosmer are retreating back into the woods, as Valenwood descends deeper into anarchy. The break away mer (the Dunmer and the Orsimer) are growing more powerful, with help of the Imperials. The mer refused to change from the beginning of time, retaining their culture as the men were reduced to savagery. Now the men are more powerful and more advanced, and the mer still refuse to change. They still hold on to their remnants of Et'Adaness, while men forge ahead. The towers are even starting to fall, further symobolizing the fall of elves. Walking Brass is destroyed, the stone of the Red Mountain has been removed, as has the stone of White Gold. There are four towers left, and the Beautiful are actively trying to destroy the crystal tower. The mer have to change.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:06 pm

It's a long quote, but very relevant.
The Altmer culture is crumbling, due to Imperial influence. It's changing. The traditional merish culture is giving away to mannish influence. At the same time, the Bosmer are retreating back into the woods, as Valenwood descends deeper into anarchy. The break away mer (the Dunmer and the Orsimer) are growing more powerful, with help of the Imperials. The mer refused to change from the beginning of time, retaining their culture as the men were reduced to savagery. Now the men are more powerful and more advanced, and the mer still refuse to change. They still hold on to their remnants of Et'Adaness, while men forge ahead. The towers are even starting to fall, further symobolizing the fall of elves. Walking Brass is destroyed, the stone of the Red Mountain has been removed, as has the stone of White Gold. There are four towers left, and the Beautiful are actively trying to destroy the crystal tower. The mer have to change.

"Some had to marry and make children just to last".
Well. Kinda.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:22 pm

The Altmer culture is crumbling, due to Imperial influence.
snipity


Put simply, everything is crumbling due to Imperial influence then.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:30 pm

Put simply, everything is crumbling due to Imperial influence then.


That is true to a certain extent of any forced multi-culturalism. But the Altmer culture is violently collapsing. Their is a fairly powerful group that is actively trying to destroy the past traditions. But as I said, the symbols of merrish power are falling.

I still think it was their mindset at the beginning of time. They have been civilized for so much longer, so they have much power. Except a static civilization will lose out to a dynamic one.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:09 pm

They may destroy the Imperial system with their death throes, however. To peaceably and calmly reject the goods of the Empire and the monopolies of their companies is to reject Imperial culture in its official capacity, and fights it's sovereignty as well as any rebellion. It's like refusing to honor Nero as a god.

The Empire will not collapse unless pushed.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:59 am

I will join the banners of saxbass2. Heh... He has told all thoughts that I wanted to express. saxbass2 is correct in all things. On one's behalf I will add, that more authorities comes to people when time passes, elves become weaker and world lose magic. As with Tolkien's world.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:16 am

They may destroy the Imperial system with their death throes, however. To peaceably and calmly reject the goods of the Empire and the monopolies of their companies is to reject Imperial culture in its official capacity, and fights it's sovereignty as well as any rebellion. It's like refusing to honor Nero as a god.

The Empire will not collapse unless pushed.


*cough*Gandhi*cough*

Based on your argument, the last bit of Mysterious Akavir is particularly intriguing. :)
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:22 pm

*cough*Gandhi*cough*

Godmnit! I hate when I get ambushed by unintentional parallels. Screw Gandhi.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:53 pm

Values like freedom of speech and religion might be good things, but when they are forced upon someone then that is still oppression.

Enforcing freedom is oppression?

I guess even democracy could still be considered oppression: majority oppress minority. And mostly the minority is like 45% of the votes too.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:30 am

Enforcing freedom is oppression?

I guess even democracy could still be considered oppression: majority oppress minority. And mostly the minority is like 45% of the votes too.


The majority oppressing the minority is a major problem, and the reason most modern governments have safegaurds to keep this stuff from happening. A good example of this was American Blacks. The were oppressed not by the government per say, but the majority that wants to keep the minority down.

And enforcing freedom is inherently taking away freedom. Put I agree that it is not oppression.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:10 pm

I guess even democracy could still be considered oppression: majority oppress minority. And mostly the minority is like 45% of the votes too.


What little I know about American government, but I know America's founding fathers know about that. I think it's called tyranny of the majority or the tyranny of the mob. Protection of minority (not racial) voice. Well, that's just FYI. I don't even know what this topic is about.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:52 pm

I don't even know what this topic is about.

This topic is about Tamrielic Empire, it's nature, it's problems and future. Also it is about empires in general.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:56 pm

What little I know about American government, but I know America's founding fathers know about that. I think it's called tyranny of the majority or the tyranny of the mob. Protection of minority (not racial) voice. Well, that's just FYI. I don't even know what this topic is about.

Thats why we have legislative and judicial branches.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:39 am

Thats why we have legislative and judicial branches.


I guess, especially the federal legislature. The system was set up during antebellum politics, when certain states may dominate others in representation at Congress. States rights was given more significance back then when regionalism was extremely strong. Then again, I can be blowing all of this out of my hole since I haven't had American History forever.

Well, back on topic. MARIEL AY-WAY!
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:42 am

CHIM AE-PADHOME

No one's thrown the checks and balances card yet? I suppose I will then.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:01 pm

There comes emptiness
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:57 pm

I love the Empire. But I am still eager to see the rise of Cyrodil's Odoacer, seeing as Martin was their Romulus Augustus.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:28 pm

Long live the Empire!
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