Allow us to create a race please...

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:36 pm

Yes, the bretons are halfies, with aldmer and nedic blood. However, that took centuries of closed environment breeding between the aldmer and nedics.

And honestly, I doubt it had much to do with blood and racial inheritance anyways. That's just not how the world of Nirn works, fundamentally. It's a universe where mythopoeic thought takes literal form. Their alteration came about from mythical and ideological impressing or somesuch. Know what I'm saying?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:47 pm

And honestly, I doubt it had much to do with blood and racial inheritance anyways. That's just not how the world of Nirn works, fundamentally. It's a universe where mythopoeic thought takes literal form. Their alteration came about from mythical and ideological impressing or somesuch. Know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I know culture has a much larger impact, just trying to explain something most people can understand.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:43 am

And honestly, I doubt it had much to do with blood and racial inheritance anyways. That's just not how the world of Nirn works, fundamentally. It's a universe where mythopoeic thought takes literal form. Their alteration came about from mythical and ideological impressing or somesuch. Know what I'm saying?

That's how I see it, seeing how evolution doesn't exist.


Offtopic: Everytime this threat comes to the top of the page and I read it's title I quietly say "shut up.." Can we as a community stop making such whiny titles.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:05 pm

That's how I see it, seeing how evolution doesn't exist.


Offtopic: Everytime this threat comes to the top of the page and I read it's title I quietly say "shut up.." Can we as a community stop making such whiny titles.

I sometimes wonder if even basic biological and "scientific" facts hold true. Do the inhabitants of Mundus consist of cells? Are their thoughts electro-chemical synapses coursing across gray brain matter? Is blood essential to life not because it carries oxygen and nutrients, but because of the mythical/symbolic relevance of "life-blood", does its flow instead provide them with nourishing life and spirit?

Such things will never be expounded upon in lore, but considering the nature of such a fundamentally different world, there's no way the tenets of real-world science apply. Makes for interesting speculation.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:10 pm

Well, the bretons are already are kind of "mixed" with some altimer blood. So just consider them half elves, and consider that the races of man's distinguishing racial traits are the result of culture instead of genetics.

That said, when I first read this thread I was hopinh it was actualally about creating your own race ala daggerfall, and that sounded way cooler.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:57 pm

no, no i'm not talking about creating a brand new race but to choose what different races blood we have. For example I have always role played as a half nord half breton. and id love the ability to choose our bloodlines which would also make it seem more realistic. what do you guys think?


You've always been able to choose your bloodlines, and be a half-breed. Thing is...

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Notes_on_Racial_Phylogeny

"Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother, though some traces of the father's race may also be present. "

...they're still pretty much going to match their mother's race in most cases, see. For all we know, 90% of the NPCs in the game are half-breeds, you just can't tell it. :P
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:06 pm

Then again, I'm pretty sure the only race with a significant population of racially pure beings would be the altmer of Summerset. They're [censored] obsessed with it. The altmer in the mainland are not even considered altmer to the ones in Summerset, and Ocato is a sell-out to them.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:54 am

Isn't the principle of this already there in Oblivion? I am pretty sure the vampire mechanics take advantage of it, by gradually merging your race with the vampire "race" and its facial features.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:02 pm

Then again, I'm pretty sure the only race with a significant population of racially pure beings would be the altmer of Summerset. They're [censored] obsessed with it. The altmer in the mainland are not even considered altmer to the ones in Summerset, and Ocato is a sell-out to them.


Yeah, what with those rumors of eugenics programs and all.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:46 am

I don't think its worth the trouble...
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:47 am

Yeah, what with those rumors of eugenics programs and all.
You know it to be true. The altmer must be removed!!!!
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:03 am

Then again, I'm pretty sure the only race with a significant population of racially pure beings would be the altmer of Summerset. They're [censored] obsessed with it. The altmer in the mainland are not even considered altmer to the ones in Summerset, and Ocato is a sell-out to them.


Well, if the whole "you look like your mother" thing is true on Nim, you could be 90% non-altmer and look altmer, apparently.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:52 pm

Well, if the whole "you look like your mother" thing is true on Nim, you could be 90% non-altimer and look altimer, apparently.
If you're 90% non-altmer, then you're likely not going to look like an altmer.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:14 pm

If you're 90% non-altmer, then you're likely not going to look like an altmer.


Completely incorrect. It's entirely likely. just two generations you have a 25% by blood altimer who looks entirely altmer (your mom and grandma were "altmer").
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:27 pm

I'm just going to RP it I'll play around with my Face generator to create a Nord/Imperial born.

Besides it would kind of go against lore that some people have probably already said 10 times before.

I'll pick perks that seem nord and imperial specific. Have a few mercantile and axes perks.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:10 am

no, no i'm not talking about creating a brand new race but to choose what different races blood we have. For example I have always role played as a half nord half breton. and id love the ability to choose our bloodlines which would also make it seem more realistic. what do you guys think?


I remember in Daggerfall, when you created a character, you chose what kind of background the character had based on choices you made through the creation process. It would be cool if you could choose from a selection of like 10 different questions that could determine what kind of ethnic background you have in terms of mixed races and whatnot. That actually sounds like a pretty cool idea. It could add a little more depth in terms of what bonuses you have at the start of the game too. For instance a Nord cross Breton character could have an affinity for magic, while being resistant to frost, or having the increased strength to wield heavy weapons. Yeah, I like it.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:02 am

Yep this is good by me.

Mortal online has a similar system where you choose an overarching race (Dwarf, Human or Elf) and mix blood and ancestry within those. Go here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFeGzM-_BAM) and look at about 1:20 onward. Btw, it's NSFW, as Mortal has full nudity for both genders.

It's funny, it actually is very elder scrolls for an MMO: skill-based advancement, first-person, real-time combat. It's a bit like Mount-and-Blade in a lot of ways too but an MMO.
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