I understand most of the others, like Sheogorath, Lorkhan, Almalexia, etc. But can anyone give me any info on Mal? I can't seem to find anything on him. And I've read countless books trying to. Thanks.

Basic, BASIC info: Malac started out as Trinimac, an Altmeri god/demi god/whatever that tried to halt the Chimer Exodus. Boethiah, who was essentially inspiration for the exodus, showed up and was like "Whoa, nellie. This ain't happenin', yo," and ate/corrupted Trinimac and changed/crapped him out into Malac, the Daedric lord of the ostracized. After this corruption, his followers, who were normal elves before the Crapping, were changed/picked up the remnant dung and spread it onto themselves to become the Orsimer, or Orcs.

Naturally, the other Lords don't respect Malac as a Daedric Prince; he doesn't have Padomaic origins.

http://www.imperial-library.info/book_daedra/index.shtml#malacath

I don't know if you've read the Book of Daedra yet.

http://www.imperial-library.info/book_daedra/index.shtml#malacath

Aside from that, he's like those old comic heroes that stand up for the little people, working class and the disadvantaged. Something like Badman or Green Arrow. Only rather then automobile factory workers, he stands up for the worlds outcast and rejects.

thnx. That helped alot.

So, Malac is basically the superhero of the deadra?

I agree, but wouldn't it make more sense to say he accepts the worlds outcasts rather than stands up for them?


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So he's like a modern messiah? Taking in those who are cast out, and giving them reasoning, something to believe in?


Maybe he takes them in because he knows how they feel.. "being cast out and all"... I would hang out with all of the worlds rejects if I were a tird... Everyone must've picked on him for being crapped out, so he decided to hang out with his kind... the outcasts....lol... that was all a joke by the way.

The last thing I would do in all the world is call him a modern messiah.

I wouldn't assume that Malacath is out looking for outcasts to preach to, I think its more of outcasts seeking solice in the fact that Malacath is a reject among deadra, and therefore they can relate this somewhat to thier misery.

not to mention the orcs think he is/was an orc

Ok.. that makes alot of sense. Doesn't it mention that somewhere in OB? I think one of his followers might say something about it, but I'm not sure. Imma go take a look see...

Thanks btw, I appreciate it.

I think the best source on Malacath is the http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=610840&hl=, the Orcish creation myth. Still curious about that "Book of Invective" though.....

Oh yeah!!! I totally forgot about that thread. Everyone MUST READ THIS, it totally rocks!

I said it the first time I read it, and I'll say it again. Albides, you're the man, dude.

Malacath isnt a messiah, he at least somehwat loyal to his followers and is willing to aid them but does show a sort of idea his followers are nothing but his servants who will obey him.

He's not a modern messiah, and he doesn't really preach; outcasts who look up to him as the "immortal outcast" search for and pray to him, and they all cry and be miserable together and wallow in their ostrasizedness as a cult.

That's the sarcastic version, but basically true. Malacath is just as depressed and miserable as his followers. Think about it: the other Daedric Princes don't even consider him to be a fellow Prince. I'd be depressed too (and probably suicidal, but since Malacath is an immortal Daedric Prince/Demon, I don't think that option is available to him :shrug: ). Basically what Arisn said; they can relate to each other, but as a Daedric Prince relates to his subservient followers.

Mjeh.
Malacathian people would be far more likely to lash out violently than to sit crying in their dark room, listening to teenage wangst music. They're the guys who "go criminal", smash up shopfront windows, break down desolate houses, and set cars on fire, not the ones who cut their wrists.
Malacath would never be suicidal, at least not in the meaning that he woud consciously want and think of killing himself. He's too busy doing "stupid" stuff to get his kicks. His avatar does carry that sword for a reason.

King Gortwog gro-Nagrom of New Orsinium would demand to differ, he claims that Malacath perpetuates the outcasting of orcs for his own indulgence. Gortwog (and much of his city) worships Trinimac, whom Malacath once was, to shed the pariah complex and claim the respect and power that the Orcs deserve.