FCOM utterly destroys performance? : IV

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:24 pm

Without any mods I was getting almost constant 60 FPS no matter what on Ultra High settings with 8x AA.

After installing FCOM I am getting 25-60 FPS on High settings with only 2x AA, and my game is extremely stuttery which kills immersion.

Should FCOM really have that huge of an impact?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:45 pm

Sounds about par for the course. Oblivion Stutter Remover (OSR) can help you. It's an OBSE plugin that will, properly configured, smooth the stuttering and jerkiness. But, a heavily modded game (and FCOM counts) is probably not going to give you a steady 60 FPS.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:52 pm

Sounds about par for the course. Oblivion Stutter Remover (OSR) can help you. It's an OBSE plugin that will, properly configured, smooth the stuttering and jerkiness. But, a heavily modded game (and FCOM counts) is probably not going to give you a steady 60 FPS.

... especially on a laptop. :ninja:

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:39 pm

Without any mods I was getting almost constant 60 FPS no matter what on Ultra High settings with 8x AA.

After installing FCOM I am getting 25-60 FPS on High settings with only 2x AA, and my game is extremely stuttery which kills immersion.

Should FCOM really have that huge of an impact?

Post your load order via Wrye Bash: right-click File-header > list mods > paste into post.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:39 am

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]05  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp08  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp09  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0A  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0B  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0C  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp0E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0F  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp10  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]12  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]14  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]15  Knights.esp16  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:06 am

Viral, you have not the latest versions of the all the FCOM files, you should probably get the UFCOM update and the WarCry Update from 08/2010. Mine:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]05  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]06  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]07  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp09  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0A  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0B  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0E  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0F  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp10  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]12  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]13  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]14  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]15  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  Knights.esp17  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]18  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2]19  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:34 pm

I agree with gothemasticator - that sounds normal. Even with the updated files.

FCOM is a heavy heavy mod and as I understand it the main culprit is the extra spawn points all over the place and the increased mobs spawned at each location. These are a drag on the cpu and regardless of video card can weigh the frame rates way down.

try going out past the borders or on the edge of the map away from any towns or ares of interest. You will see your frame rates rise.

Just basic FCOM as you listed also drove my frame rates down some 20+ points on average everywhere I go in the tamriel/cyrodiil worldspace ... city spaces and interiors not so much. But areas like caves and ruins once you hit high enough level and FCOM starts spitting out 30 actors in an interior cell - yeah you will get drag there too. But worry not because they will all be rushing to their death - it will just be a slide show till the die.

Oblivion Stutter Remover is one of the best partial fixes for this. +1 to that.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:17 am

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]05  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9a7]06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp08  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp09  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp0A  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0B  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0C  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp0E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0F  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp10  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9]11  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]12  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]14  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]15  Knights.esp16  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

You should update FCOM to http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1152645-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/ as MMM 3.7b3p3 requires it. And while you're at it, update WarCry and FCOM_WarCr to 1.09.

That shouldn't do much about the performance, though. Try using one of the FCOM reduced spawns esp's. FCOM affects performance mainly via added enemies, so reducing the spawn rate is the best way to deal with it. Wait 4 days for a respawn after adding it.