Need help with OBGE / ENBSeries : IV

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:13 pm

After playing Oblivion for a few years with only very few mods, I recently started a new game with several of the big overhaul mods, HD textures, OBSE, OBGEv2 and ENBSeries.

What an amazing experience! Thanks very much to everyone on the forums who provided guidance regarding the proper installation procedure.

I have been playing with these mods installed for a few days and everything works great and looks gorgeous. However, once in a while, the screen freezes for a very brief period and then becomes very dark. It is not black, just the level of light is massively reduced, although light sources from windows and torches is still visible. If I open the menus, the character image and menus are perfectly visible, with no reduction in brightness.

If I open the OBGEv2 support menu and select "Toggle Active Shaders" the level of brightness returns to normal (except of course all the beautiful lighting effects from ENBSeries and OBGE are gone).

I am usually able to fix this by restarting computer, restarting Wrye Bash, restarting OBMM and then loading an older save.

Any suggestions on which setting to tweak within the OBGEv2 Support menu to determine what exactly is causing this brightness, and is there any console command or setting within the support menu I can adjust to correct the problem without restarting?

I'm playing at 1920x1080 resolution with QTP3 textures on an Envy 15 laptop with AMD HD5830 GPU (overclocked to 500 mHz / 1100 mHz), i7-820QM CPU, dual Intel X-18 G2 SSDs in Raid 0, 16GB 1333mHz DDR3 RAM.

Below is a list of the active mods:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Silgrad_Tower.esm [Version 3.36]
02 Jog_X_Mod.esm
03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
09 Armamentarium.esm
0A Artifacts.esm
0B Better Cities Resources.esm
0C Cobl - NPCDiversity - TNR Merge.esp [Version 9.3EV-D]
0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.3]
0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
10 Symphony of Violence.esp
11 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
12 WindowLightingSystem.esp
13 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.1]
14 FF_Real_Thirst.esp
15 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.3]
16 DLCOrrery.esp
17 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
18 DLCVileLair.esp
19 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
1A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1C DLCSpellTomes.esp
1D DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
1E ArmamentariumVendors.esp
1F SnakeArmor.esp
20 trfjChronoStaff.esp
21 XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]
22 DLCThievesDen.esp
23 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
24 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
25 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
26 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
27 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
28 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
29 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
2A FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2B Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2D FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
2E FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2F FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
30 FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
31 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
32 FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]
33 FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
34 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
35 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
36 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3B Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3F FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
40 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
41 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
42 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]
43 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
44 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
45 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
46 300_Artifacts.esp
47 Artifacts.esp
48 hackdirtabyss.esp
49 Silgrad_Tower.esp [Version 3.36]
4A thievery.esp
4B thievery - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]
4C DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
4D DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
4E DLCFrostcrag.esp
4F DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
50 Knights.esp
51 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]
52 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
53 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
54 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
55 xulTheHeath.esp
56 XulEntiusGorge.esp
57 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
58 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
59 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
5A xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
5B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]
5C xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
5D xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
5E xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
5F xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
60 xulPantherRiver.esp
61 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
62 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]
63 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.6]
64 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
65 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
66 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
67 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
68 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]
69 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]
6A RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.5]
6B Ashes to Ashes.esp [Version 1.0]
6C Vampire Aging Disabled 2 XYoung.esp
6D bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]
6E Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
6F 1em_Vilja.esp
70 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
71 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
72 tkHairPack01.esp
73 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
74 ElaborateEyes.esp
75 bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
76 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
77 bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
78 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
79 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
7A SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
7B SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
7C SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
7D SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
7E SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
7F SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
80 SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]
81 SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.86]
82 bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
83 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
84 bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.5]
85 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
86 bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
87 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
88 ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp
89 ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackHairsOnly.esp
8A FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
8B Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
8C FormID Finder4.esp
8D Better Cities Full.esp
8E Better Cities .esp
8F Better Imperial City.esp
90 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
91 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
92 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]
93 Better Cities - Thievery.esp
94 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1]
95 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
96 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.8.1]
97 TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
98 TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp
99 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:56 pm

After playing Oblivion for a few years with only very few mods, I recently started a new game with several of the big overhaul mods, HD textures, OBGE and ENBSeries.

What an amazing experience! Thanks very much to everyone on the forums who provided guidance regarding the proper installation procedure.

I have been playing with these mods installed for a few days and everything works great and looks gorgeous. However, once in a while, the screen freezes for a very brief period and then becomes very dark. It is not black, just the level of light is massively reduced, although light sources from windows and torches is still visible. If I open the menus, the character image and menus are perfectly visible, with no reduction in brightness.

If I open the OBGEv2 support menu and select "Toggle Active Shaders" the level of brightness returns to normal (except of course all the beautiful lighting effects from ENBSeries and OBGE are gone).

I am usually able to fix this by restarting computer, restarting Wrye Bash, restarting OBMM and then loading an older save.

Any suggestions on which setting to tweak within the OBGEv2 Support menu to determine what exactly is causing this brightness, and is there any console command or setting within the support menu I can adjust to correct the problem without restarting?

I'm playing at 1920x1080 resolution on an Envy 15 laptop with AMD HD5830 GPU (overclocked to 500 mHz / 1100 mHz), i7-820QM CPU, dual Intel X-18 G2 SSDs in Raid 0, 16GB 1333mHz DDR3 RAM.

Below is a list of the active mods:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Silgrad_Tower.esm [Version 3.36]
02 Jog_X_Mod.esm
03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
09 Armamentarium.esm
0A Artifacts.esm
0B Better Cities Resources.esm
0C Cobl - NPCDiversity - TNR Merge.esp [Version 9.3EV-D]
0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.3]
0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
10 Symphony of Violence.esp
11 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
12 WindowLightingSystem.esp
13 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.1]
14 FF_Real_Thirst.esp
15 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.3]
16 DLCOrrery.esp
17 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
18 DLCVileLair.esp
19 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
1A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1C DLCSpellTomes.esp
1D DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
1E ArmamentariumVendors.esp
1F SnakeArmor.esp
20 trfjChronoStaff.esp
21 XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]
22 DLCThievesDen.esp
23 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
24 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
25 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
26 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]
27 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
28 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
29 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
2A FCOM_WarCryNoSpawn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2B Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2D FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
2E FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2F FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
30 FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
31 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
32 FCOM_LessRats.esp [Version 0.9.9]
33 FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]
34 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
35 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
36 Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3B Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
3C Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3F FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
40 FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
41 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
42 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]
43 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
44 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
45 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
46 300_Artifacts.esp
47 Artifacts.esp
48 hackdirtabyss.esp
49 Silgrad_Tower.esp [Version 3.36]
4A thievery.esp
4B thievery - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]
4C DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
4D DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
4E DLCFrostcrag.esp
4F DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
50 Knights.esp
51 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]
52 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
53 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
54 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
55 xulTheHeath.esp
56 XulEntiusGorge.esp
57 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
58 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
59 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
5A xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
5B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]
5C xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]
5D xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
5E xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
5F xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
60 xulPantherRiver.esp
61 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
62 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]
63 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.6]
64 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
65 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
66 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
67 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]
68 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]
69 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]
6A RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.5]
6B Ashes to Ashes.esp [Version 1.0]
6C Vampire Aging Disabled 2 XYoung.esp
6D bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]
6E Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
6F 1em_Vilja.esp
70 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
71 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
72 tkHairPack01.esp
73 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]
74 ElaborateEyes.esp
75 bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
76 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
77 bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
78 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
79 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
7A SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
7B SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
7C SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
7D SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
7E SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
7F SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
80 SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]
81 SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.86]
82 bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
83 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
84 bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.5]
85 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
86 bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
87 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
88 ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp
89 ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackHairsOnly.esp
8A FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
8B Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
8C FormID Finder4.esp
8D Better Cities Full.esp
8E Better Cities .esp
8F Better Imperial City.esp
90 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
91 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
92 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]
93 Better Cities - Thievery.esp
94 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1]
95 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
96 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.8.1]
97 TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
98 TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp
99 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Sounds like you're using an older version of OBGEv2's shaders with the broken SSAO test and perf shaders. There's a newer version linked to in the OP of the OBGE thread.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:47 pm

Thanks very much, Wrinkly!

I did not in fact have the latest shaders, which I downloaded from the following link and installed:
http://www.4shared.com/file/5nlBoTln/OBGEv2_Shaders.html

After installing these and loading a savegame with this darkness problem, the game freezed for about 10 seconds and then went dark again.

I tried tweaking individual shader settings in the in-game menu, such as ssao AO Darkness, Brightness, etc., but the darkness seems to disappear only if I toggle all enabled shaders.

Any suggestions for which setting might be the one causing the screen to darken so much, and whether there is a way to toggle that specific shader using a console command without disabling all the other great OBGE shaders?

Somehow, if I restart my computer, restart wyre bash and OBMM, then launch oblivion and go back to an earlier savegame, it seems to reset this particular setting that is making the screen dark, but a few hours later it happens again.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:10 pm

I think I figured it out.

For some reason, once in a while, a couple of the settings for ssao_test get reset to a number that causes almost total darkness.

By activating the in-game +Options+ menu in inventory list, then selecting OBGEv2 support, then holding shift or ctrl down while clicking on specific options, you can turn off ssao_test and ssao_perf and turn them back on, adjusting individual settings until it is no longer dark.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:31 pm

If you're not using them, move them to a subfolder or elsewhere - you only really need one SSAO shader.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:31 pm

I suggest using either the Ring or Volumetric version of SSAO. And yes, only having one in your Shaders folder. In fact, only the thnigs you'll ever use at all. But whatever works. :shrug: