Are there any mods out there that actually make the race you pick a factor in gameplay? As it is now, Bretons will become the best, no matter what. I want something that either changes the races a good bit and makes them balanced. I tried RBP but it felt too... bloated in a way to me. I searched the nexus and didn't find anything that seemed to fix what i want to fix. Any ideas, guys?

Bloated how? isn't there a version without the hairs/eyes and new races? Unless you meant bloated in some other way.


There's also
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26216

I don't like how RBP controls so many things... The health, the magicka, etc. I have been using TRAP recently as well. And it is good for me when playing an Argonian as that is a balanced race in it but the other races have abilities that are too game-changing for my tastes. Maybe I'm too picky.

I think there's some modules in RBP that allow you to keep normal health and magicka settings.

yeah, the folder labeled 07 GMST resetters. I think all of them reset their specific things to vanilla, or at least the ones labeled "vanilla" do.

Hmm. I'll have to check that out then. Thanks, Pheonix.

Might as well chime in to make a comment on the design decision there. Besides overall balance, a major goal in TRAP is to make all the races really feel different in regular play. Game-changing is entirely the point: IMO, race shouldn't completely fade into the background by level 4.

It's true that most races gained significant power as a result. Even so, Bretons were nerfed.

Before I continue, I would like to point out that I am not trying to bash you or TRAP. I have a great respect for you and your mods and really enjoy nGCD and Birthsigns Expanded. I understand your intentions with TRAP but I feel like some of the powers could be more balanced or just not as annoying. The Khajiit's night-eye is the annoying one I am talking about as I like to look at outside in the darkness without night-eye. I always play stealth characters and thus always pick Bosmer, Khajiit, Argonian, or Dunmer. The Bosmer's invisibilty is a good idea, I would agree, but in the game it does not have as much use as I would like it to and the Dunmer's magicka gain as a result of health loss is a very fitting skill given their description but with my play style it would not be utilized almost at all. I feel like I am nitpicking your mod, but it's really just that I am a picky player. Thank you for your work, though, Tejon. It has made many of my games much more fun than they would have been without it.

Oh, I didn't think you were bashing my mod! If anything, I thought that showing up and joining the topic might lead to comments that help me make it better in the future. I know that there's a huge factor of personal taste in this sort of thing, and for that matter you might not want to play the same mods every game. I guess there's also the fact that TRAP doesn't get a lot of attention, so I don't get to talk about it often.

Of course, ironically enough, the automatic khajiit night-eye and the Bosmer stealth ability are two of the most popular things in the mod. Like I said... definitely a matter of taste, and one mod will never be right for everyone!

By the way, if you do come back around to TRAP for a later game, since you mainly like to play stealth characters, I recommend trying Imperial or Redguard. For the latest version I revisited the class stereotypes, and this is how they're laid out now:

Combat > Stealth: Redguard
Combat specialist: Orc
Combat > Magic: Nord
Magic > Combat: Dunmer
Magic specialist: Altmer
Magic > Stealth: Breton
Stealth > Magic: Bosmer
Stealth specialist: Imperial
Stealth > Combat: Khajiit
Three-way balance: Argonian