CTD on Load of Save : IV

» Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:06 pm

I'm getting an odd issue-- I can go into a Cell, move around, Save my Game, load my Game and carry on as normal-- I can even go back a while later, and re-load that save. However, if I exit Oblivion, and then attempt to reload the save, 9/10 the game will instantly CTD upon filling the progress bar: the bar goes totally red, the screen goes black as though it is about to load, and then a CTD occurs.

This is my current load order. It has been initially run through BOSS, and then reworked based on known compatibility issues-- nothing else SHOULD have changed position from how Boss set it, apart from my own Mods and the Better Cities Mods/UL BC patches.

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Better Cities Resources.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]03  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.0]04  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]08  Better Cities .esp09  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0A  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0B  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0C  Distant Chapel Bells.esp0D  Rainbows.esp0E  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]0F  DLCHorseArmor.esp10  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]11  DLCOrrery.esp12  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]13  DLCVileLair.esp14  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]15  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp16  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]17  DLCSpellTomes.esp18  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]19  KDDwemerSpectacles.esp1A  DLCThievesDen.esp1B  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1C  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1D  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp1E  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1F  DLCFrostcrag.esp20  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]21  Knights.esp22  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]23  The Lost Spires.esp24  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]25  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]26  xulTheHeath.esp27  XulEntiusGorge.esp28  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]29  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]2A  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]2B  UL_BOC_LostCoast_1.0.esp2C  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2D  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]2E  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]2F  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]30  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]31  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]32  xulPantherRiver.esp33  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]34  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]35  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]36  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]37  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]38  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]39  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]3A  HelmetFOV.esp3B  StackableEquipment.esp3C  RenGuardOverhaul.esp3D  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp3E  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp3F  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp40  Cosmetic Compilation.esp41  CDM - Dual Currencies.esp42  CDM - Disenchant.esp43  CDM - Multi Enchant.esp44  CDM - Guards Don't Respawn.esp45  Dollparts_RoseCorsets - Light.esp46  CDM - Alchemy Skill Increase.esp47  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.3]48  Accessible Wellspring Grove.esp49  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4A  CDM - Shivering Time.esp4B  CDM - Name That Home.esp4C  CDM - Claim Cell.esp4D  CDM - Perfect Harvest.esp4E  CDM - De-Essential.esp4F  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp50  CDM - Chrissieartos Equipment.esp51  CDM - Character Build Overhaul.esp52  CDM - Character Development Suite.esp53  CDM - Water Tweak.esp54  Better Cities Full.esp55  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp56  CDM - Modular Vampirism - Core.esp57  CDM - Modular Vampirism - Companions.esp58  Castle.esp59  CDM - Modular Vampirism - Holy Ground Damage.esp5A  CDM - Modular Vampirism - Starvation.esp5B  CDM - Modular Vampirism - Levelling.esp5C  CDM - Modular Vampirism - Awareness System.esp5D  Better Imperial City.esp5E  BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp5F  BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp60  BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp

Any suggestions would be really helpful, as it seems bizzare that it would only happen on Exiting Oblivion, and not something in the Cell itself...

EditL just for clarification, when I say "9/10", I mean that 9 out of every 10 saves, not that 9 out of every 10 times that save is loaded

» Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:36 pm

After some experimenting, it looks as though this issue is related to Interior Saves-- at least, I can guarentee a 100% replication of this issue on both Manual and Auto Saves in an interior location-- using an exterior save seems to be fine. This pushes my guess towards something like Let there be Darkness, All Natural (which I believe has an interior lighting system), or one of my own Mods-- I am not aware of the others alterting many interiors. Unfortunately, it seems present even without...

If anyone has any suggestions it would be great.

» Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:55 pm

All Natural and a couple other .esp's are not at the latest version, I see also 22 Knights Unofficial patch, the UOP itself.... maybe not the cause of problems but probably not helpful either.

» Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:15 am

Thanks for the heads-up on the .esps

Just doing some experiments, it looks like it MAY be Better Cities doing this-- when I load BC, there's a Menu that comes up: after it has come up, the issue seems to strike, but if I save before it, it is OK... I'm going to check the DL for BC, in a minute, and will check the others