strange map problem : IV

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:25 pm

hi all...

Suddenly I have a strange map problem! the map itself, minus most icons, is centered, but my place-curser and most of the icons are off the the right on a blank sheet.

it is now fixed.

but I wonder.....
with my large load order posted on the next post below, I wonder what large quest mods that I can still add?

I found that, for instance, Totf has a quest conflict with??? lost spires or aquanious.
and HOD needs a character of 15 or higher, i read.

at this point, nearly every new mod will see red conflict marks in tesedit!

anyway, i thank you all for taking a look, and please comment more on my load order too. I have taken out a couple of the ul patches, i think, and so....

freestone

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:44 am

It sounds like you have a map mod that changes the size of the original map. Make sure that that map plugin is loading lost. BOSS should place those plugins correctly unless you are using a really obscure mod. What map mod are you using? A load order would help...

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:54 pm

It sounds like you have a map mod that changes the size of the original map. Make sure that that map plugin is loading lost. BOSS should place those plugins correctly unless you are using a really obscure mod. What map mod are you using? A load order would help...

ah, here it is......

Oblivion.esm
Cybiades.esm
Windfall.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Children Of Rourken.esm
Cobl Main.esm
TamRes.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Artifacts.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
NNWAEMaster.esm
TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp
AdventurersItemMod.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Better Cities .esp
TamRes.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp
Echo_ChapelChant.esp
AmbientTownSounds.esp
MIS.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
Distant Chapel Bells.esp
IWR-Lights.esp
IWR-Windows.esp
IWR-Shutters.esp
Added Realistic NPC's v1.0.esp
Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
Books of Console v1.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
ES4_Alchemists Reference.esp
ImprovedSigns.esp
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp
ReneersNotesMod.esp
Update My Statue.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
Oblivion Alive.esp
Crowded Roads Advanced.esp
Populated Prisons.esp
PTRoamingNPCs.esp
FormID Finder4.esp
kuerteeCleanUp.esp
Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp
PCB.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
AyleidStatueMap.esp
BeyondCyrodiilMarkers.esp
ShadowbanishMap.esp
ShowDaedricShrines.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs.esp
Adonnays Elven Longblades.esp
Battlespire Books.esp
Classic Books.esp
Gazerith's Spell Books V1.0.esp
That's so Nico v1.1.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp
ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp
OOO-No_Clutter_Ownership.esp
CNRP Brumav02.esp
CNRP Bruma4OOO.esp
CNRP Chorrol.esp
CNRP Chorrol4OOO.esp
CNRP DB.esp
CNRP DB for OOO.esp
CNRP Cheydinhal.esp
CNRP Cheydinhal4OOO.esp
CNRP FightersGuild.esp
CNRP FightersGuild4OOO.esp
EM_CompInnsleeping.esp
Ivellon.esp
Artifacts.esp
Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp
Better Rosethorn Hall.esp
Better Rosethorn Hall - Cobl Patch.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed.esp
FalamirTheMerchant.esp
goldenarrowarcheryshopfixedprices.esp
IC Atmospheric Shops Mod.esp
Jagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.esp
Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
LordKain_Adash_World.esp
LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp
MountainShackR121.esp
Nascosto Isles 3.esp
All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp
NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp
NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp
NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp
RoxeyCottage.esp
The Ayleid Steps.esp
TheElderCouncil.esp
thievery.esp
thievery - EE patch.esp
VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
Wayshrines in the University.esp
Windfall.esp
Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp
24HrArenaAliveV2.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Cybiades.esp
CybiadesDungeon.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
AFK_Weye.esp
ElsweyrAnequina.esp
Feldscar.esp
Vergayun.esp
Faregyl.esp
Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp
Molapi.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp
Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
Cybiades-Lost Coast patch.esp
KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
LostSwordoftheAyleids-ArriusCreek patch.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
goldenarchery-rollinghills fix.esp
KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
GiftOfKynareth-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp
OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp
bartholm.esp
Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp
bartholm - EE patch.esp
Universitum Arcanorum.esp
Skingrad outer district.esp
Better Abandoned House.esp
Better Cities - House price patch.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Automagic Bags.esp
Cliff_BetterLetters.esp
Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp
Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp
Quest Award Leveling SI.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
MidasSpells.esp
DirenniAlchemyApparatus.esp
CreeperJones.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
bgBalancingEVCore.esp
bgMagicEV.esp
bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp
bgIntegrationEV.esp
Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - Skingrad Outer District.esp
BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland patch.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Cities - Thievery.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
OOO-Respawn_Week.esp
Companion Compatibility.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor Extra.esp
MI Books.esp
OblivionHackBooks.esp
AN Scripts.esp
Console Command Books.esp
Necromancy Books.esp
Mark And Recall SI - Normal Spells.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp

I am using the currant map marker overhaul with darn. OOO too, but it worked with OOO when i began the game. I added a few mods since. probably one of those mods that *looks* to add six hammers , to the gameworld, but it ends up messing up the castle ruins graphics!

???

thanks.
now off to bed, I will look more another day.

freestone

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:26 pm

Map Marker Overhaul should make no difference, that only adds icons etc., not the map itself.

Have you installed an actual map as well? Like Elven Map , or one from my compilations (linked in my signature.) The map itself probably won't have an esp/esm file , so not in load order. But some maps require an dextra esp file in order to realign the map icons to fit its different size.

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:53 am

That load order needs to be purged. BC needs to be updated. That, or there are some unnecessary UL patches floating in it from something else. It looks like both. I'm surprised that the biggest issue is a bunch of offset map markers...

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:11 am

Just put the http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26329 last in your LO (must be loaded last) and the map icons should be corrected.

You can also safely remove these two mods, because one of them is already in the latest UOP version and other one is almost obsolete.

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp - included in UOP 3.3.3Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp - is not essential

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:46 pm

Also, how many console books do you need? It looks like you have two sets added by separate mods, and I think there is also a set in COB, unless that just pertains to COBL. I haven't checked...

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:18 pm

That load order needs to be purged. BC needs to be updated. That, or there are some unnecessary UL patches floating in it from something else. It looks like both. I'm surprised that the biggest issue is a bunch of offset map markers...

thanks all.

I fixed it by reinstalling the elven map mod, version two. also the dymanic map. apparently my elven map was not correctly installed to begin with.

extra ul patches?
probably I tried a mod, found too many conflicts, took it out, but a ul patch still remains and the error does not show in wyre.
BC?
I *try* to check for updates, probably i missed the last one. I will go look.

Its now gotten where nearly every new large mod that i try to add, will conflict badly with something.
I get about 15 to 25 fps outdoors and the worst place so far is the University garden entrance where I get about 8 to 10.

thanks....freestone

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:40 pm

thanks all.

I fixed it by reinstalling the elven map mod, version two. also the dymanic map. apparently my elven map was not correctly installed to begin with.

extra ul patches?
probably I tried a mod, found too many conflicts, took it out, but a ul patch still remains and the error does not show in wyre.
BC?
I *try* to check for updates, probably i missed the last one. I will go look.

Its now gotten where nearly every new large mod that i try to add, will conflict badly with something.
I get about 15 to 25 fps outdoors and the worst place so far is the University garden entrance where I get about 8 to 10.

thanks....freestone

If you look at your load order, there are a number of UL patches with similar names. Any UL patch for which there is a BC version, you should only use that version and get rid of any from the UL Patches separate Nexus page. I'm a little busy now, but I may have time to go through your load order more carefully later and point them out.

Those kind of FPS ranges with BC doesn't sound odd unless you are using a really nice system. Most of your LO is comprises visual enhancements. Add the FPS patches for BC if you do not already have them (or continue playing with a min FPS of 8.) Get the Oblivion Stutter Remover from TESNexus, and be sure to read the ReadMe. It is very clear about which option to choose, recommended settings, etc.

Happy gaming!
- Tomlong75210

UPDATE: Do you have the latest version of BC? Did you install two copies of BC? You should only have the UL patches from the BC archive installed for BC. Get rid of these duplicates.

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - Skingrad Outer District.esp
BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp <-- 1
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp <-- 2
BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp <-- 1
BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland patch.esp <-- 2
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp <-- 3
BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp <-- 1
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp <-- 2
BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp <-- 1
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp <-- 2
Better Cities - Thievery.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:48 pm

Also, how many console books do you need? It looks like you have two sets added by separate mods, and I think there is also a set in COB, unless that just pertains to COBL. I haven't checked...

thanks tomlong.

I guess I have them all out. Tis hard to keep track of it all.

what an Interesting world this seems to be, so far.

freestone

» Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:34 pm

thanks tomlong.

I guess I have them all out. Tis hard to keep track of it all.

what an Interesting world this seems to be, so far.

freestone

I checked the COBL thing, and it only contains a few console commands. I guess those separate mods are more extensive. Removing the duplicate UL patches is more serious though. Make sure you don't have any non-BC version of those patches installed as well. I don't remember seeing any duplicates of that kind, but double check anyway.

Happy gaming!
- Tomlong75210