Ladders : V

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:25 pm

Will Bethesda ever add ladders?

I wonder if their "new" engine has ladder climbing capabilities, something they have apparently seeked for many a year.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:13 pm

they have tried it many times, we will just have to wait and see

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:55 am

They might be able to with the new Engine according to them the reason they haven't is because it was too hard with gamebryro engine so with the new engine they might add ladders but it all depends

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:12 pm

Ladders have always been used to separate cells. They're almost like a door in a sense. You press the ladder, you leave the cell and enter the floor above you. For this reason alone, I do not think ladders will be climbable in TES V.

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:59 pm

They might be able to with the new Engine according to them the reason they haven't is because it was too hard with gamebryro engine so with the new engine they might add ladders but it all depends

How many times must we tell people, TES V uses Gamebryo.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:36 pm

I kind of like not going through the hassle of climbing them. they always remind me of the part in half live with the tentacle monster that hears you. you fall off the ladder there and you don't get back up. I've been secretly scared of game ladders ever since.

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:50 pm

>New engine
>Not Gamebyro

'Nuff said.

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:18 pm

I for one would enjoy a game that allowed for climbing.. and maybe had a climbing skill involved. Obviously ladders don't need a climbing skill. But it would feel really good to scale a cliff rather than jump around until you get up the side of a hill.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:27 pm

>New engine
>Not Gamebyro

'Nuff said.

The technology is ours and it is inspired by the technology we have. We have a lot of it. But that's our starting point - the Fallout 3 tech. It started with Morrowind, we went to Oblivion, we did a lot between Oblivion and Fallout 3 because now we had final hardware - with Oblivion we had six months on final hardware, so Fallout 3 technically does a lot more than Oblivion. The new stuff is an even bigger jump from that.

Sounds like Gamebryo to me.....

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-bethesdas-todd-howard-interview

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:24 pm

Sounds like Gamebryo to me.....

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-bethesdas-todd-howard-interview

http://twitter.com/nickbreckon/status/14015054991069184

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:42 pm

Funny how some people still haven't realized GameBryo has been ditched when Bethesda is doing their best to spread it all around. Hell, Gstaff even posted in a thread about it! :laugh:

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:54 am

I mean, really. Every game in the history of games has ladders. I mean, The first Donkey Kong, with Mario (or was that the first Mario, with Donkey Kong) half of what you do is climb ladders.

Daggerfalls "climb" system basically allowed you to climb ladders, anywhere. I can't imagine it's hard to script an object with a 2-D ladder texture that enables the same ability. Not saying that would work so well for Skyrim, but the point is, everybody does ladders. Oh yea, and the engine is based on Idtech 5, if I'm not mistaken.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:31 pm

The problem is and always has been Gamebryo.
If I had to guess it is because it is hard to animate it correctly, allow you to stop in the middle of it, or climb faster, not because it is hard to code.

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:42 pm

Funny how some people still haven't realized GameBryo has been ditched when Bethesda is doing their best to spread it all around. Hell, Gstaff even posted in a thread about it! :laugh:

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I don't know that. For all I know it's GameBryo because no other engine fit for such a large scale game

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:03 am

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I don't know that. For all I know it's GameBryo because no other engine fit for such a large scale game

They've had years to make a new engine. It's guaranteed that they would have enough time for a new engine that could run a large scale game.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:16 pm

Sounds like Gamebryo to me.....

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-bethesdas-todd-howard-interview

I had to do a search to make sure Maiq the Liar wasn't, um, lying, but he's right. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1148218-new-engine/page__st__40__p__16786625#entry16786625 The words Gamebryo and Idtech are not mentioned.

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:32 pm

Oh yea, and the engine is based on Idtech 5, if I'm not mistaken.

Didn't they state clearly that they IdTech 5 was not the kind of engine they would use to make a TES game?

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:37 pm

I had to do a search to make sure Maiq the Liar wasn't, um, lying, but he's right. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1148218-new-engine/page__st__40__p__16786625#entry16786625 The words Gamebryo and Idtech are not mentioned.

GameBryo was not GameBryo when it was used for Morrowind (it's NetImmerse) so it doesn't have to be GameBryo, but simply something derived from it (improved so much you can call it something different, but still that same old feeling)

What I'm saying is that they may not call it GameBryo this time around, but it's still pretty much the engine they've been using all this time

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:05 am

Didn't they state clearly that they IdTech 5 was not the kind of engine they would use to make a TES game?

I may have gotten some bad information. I think Paul O. tweeted "all new engine" and the article assumed it was idtech since Zenimax bought id.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:00 pm

Screw ladders, I was promised rope in 1996 and after fifteen years they'd better deliver.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:52 pm

GameBryo was not GameBryo when it was used for Morrowind (it's NetImmerse) so it doesn't have to be GameBryo, but simply something derived from it (improved so much you can call it something different, but still that same old feeling)

What I'm saying is that they may not call it GameBryo this time around, but it's still pretty much the engine they've been using all this time

It's an all new graphics and gameplay engine internal to BGS, and it looks incredible

We can't wait to show you more

New. No matter what you call it, it's not the same engine.

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:56 pm

this ISNT mount and blade.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:38 pm

I foresee one of two scenarios, the former being the most likely:

1) They finally made ladders work and you, the player, are confronted with one during the tutorial mission, whilst an NPC is around. Said NPC makes a remark obvious enough to be recognised as a sarcastic remark about the problems ladders have caused for BGS to anyone who knows this, but subtle enough that it will seem natural to anyone else.

2) No ladders.