Dragon Wing Tweak

Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:37 am

Um... right. The dragons look great the way they are, its THEIR design and they can do whatever they want with it. Its not "a tiny, but important detail" (you're right about the tiny part though, wrong about it being anywhere near important), its their own idea of what a dragon looks like and since they are the ones in charge its up to them, not you, to decide their appearance.

And btw you need a "don't care / meh" option for the poll.

I agree. Meh.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:38 am

My only problem with the dragon's wings is they seem somewhat small—a mistake I see in almost every iteration of a dragon. A creature that size must have wings of massive size in proportion to its body to generate enough lift force to accommodate its weight. Either that, or it is substantially lighter than it looks. Though, considering this is fantasy, I guess they can get around that science with relative ease.

[EDIT]: The wing curvature also looks somewhat flat (I must admit it's hard to see though). For an animal, or even a plane, to fly, the wing must have a very slight upward arch to get lift under its wings. If a creature has flat wings then it must rely on rapid beats, such as that of a bee or a hummingbird, or slower beats with a drastic wing size to weight ratio, like a butterfly. But such quick succession of beats is impractical for a creature of a dragon's size, as it would require an obscene amount of energy and mucle power. That's why you notice that the lager flying animals rely on gliding far more than they do beating their wings. But to glide in that fashion, as a dragon obviously must, they need an appropriate wing shape and surface area. In fact, that was the Wright brothers's great breakthrough. They discovered, to get their planes to fly, they must curve the wings so that the airflow hit the underside of the wing provideing lift force. These dragons, as it appears to me, need slightly (or perhaps drastically) larger wings, providing more surface area, and need more overarching curvature of the wing, to provide more lift force.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:06 am

Because there isn't a single flying non-insect I can think of that doesn't have its wings connected to its body with additional flaps/feathers, instead of coming down to a single bony joint.
As has been stated here dragons achieve flight through magical means. If this that magic help dragons achieve neutral/near neutral buoyancy in air then having the skin attached wouldn't be necessary, since it's only purpose would only really be for extra gliding ability. Wings would then only really be used for the purposes of propulsion and stabilization. Because of the magic explanation, you really can't use earth's evolutionary patterns to say what the wings should, or shouldn't look like.
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Post » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:46 pm

My only problem with the dragon's wings is they seem somewhat small—a mistake I see in almost every iteration of a dragon. A creature that size must have wings of massive size in proportion to its body to generate enough lift force to accommodate its weight. Either that, or it is substantially lighter than it looks. Though, considering this is fantasy, I guess they can get around that science with relative ease.

[EDIT]: The wing curvature also looks somewhat flat (I must admit it's hard to see though). For an animal, or even a plane, to fly, the wing must have a very slight upward arch to get lift under its wings. If a creature has flat wings then it must rely on rapid beats, such as that of a bee or a hummingbird, or slower beats with a drastic wing size to weight ratio, like a butterfly. But such quick succession of beats is impractical for a creature of a dragon's size, as it would require an obscene amount of energy and mucle power. That's why you notice that the lager flying animals rely on gliding far more than they do beating their wings. But to glide in that fashion, as a dragon obviously must, they need an appropriate wing shape and surface area. In fact, that was the Wright brothers's great breakthrough. They discovered, to get their planes to fly, they must curve the wings so that the airflow hit the underside of the wing provideing lift force. These dragons, as it appears to me, need slightly (or perhaps drastically) larger wings, providing more surface area, and need more overarching curvature of the wing, to provide more lift force.



"Moraelyn asked with a smile, 'All right then, I've always wanted to know this - considering the shape of your mouth and teeth, how do dragons manage to speak the humanoid languages so clearly?'
Akatosh paused, and then carefully responded, 'Why, in much the same way that we can fly, even though our wings are not naturally strong enough to support such heavy torsos.'"

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:41 am

"Moraelyn asked with a smile, 'All right then, I've always wanted to know this - considering the shape of your mouth and teeth, how do dragons manage to speak the humanoid languages so clearly?'
Akatosh paused, and then carefully responded, 'Why, in much the same way that we can fly, even though our wings are not naturally strong enough to support such heavy torsos.'"

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons

Thanks for that. I guess they call it fantasy and not science fiction with good reason.
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:55 am

They should detail out the Dragons more so they look better!
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Post » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:52 am

You have just ruined alittle bit of the game fro me. I will never stop thinking about it when ill see a dragon from now on. ;(
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