People walking into walls : IV

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:38 am

I'm having a problem where NPCs in cities are continously walking into walls of buildings, and occasionally I'll hear what sounds like someone taking fall damage. I searched for a solution to this problem but every answer I found said to update MMM's Diverse Waterlife, which I don't have installed.

Load order:

Spoiler

Masters for: Save 8 - Drew - Chorrol, Level 1, Playing Time 01.06.59.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  You Are Here.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2.1]03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]06  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]07  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp09  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0A  Better Cities .esp0B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]0C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2.1]0D  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]0E  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]0F  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2]10  WindowLightingSystem.esp11  AmbientDungeons.esp  [Version 1.3]12  Living Economy.esp13  Living Economy - Items.esp14  Cutthroat Merchants.esp15  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]16  Streamline 3.1.esp17  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.5.1]18  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]19  CapesandCloaks.esp1A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]1B  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]1C  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]1D  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33]1E  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]1F  Knights.esp20  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]21  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]22  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]23  xulTheHeath.esp24  XulEntiusGorge.esp25  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]26  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]27  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]28  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]29  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2A  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]2B  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]2C  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]2D  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]2E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]2F  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]30  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]31  xulPantherRiver.esp32  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]33  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]34  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]35  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]36  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]37  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]38  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]39  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]3A  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp3B  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]3C  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]3D  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]3E  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]3F  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp40  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]41  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp42  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp43  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.0]44  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]45  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]46  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.7.0]47  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.7.0]48  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]49  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.0]4A  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]4B  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.0]4C  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.9.0]4D  No More Annoying Comments.esp4E  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp4F  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]50  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thanks.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:45 pm

I'm having a problem where NPCs in cities are continously walking into walls of buildings, and occasionally I'll hear what sounds like someone taking fall damage. I searched for a solution to this problem but every answer I found said to update MMM's Diverse Waterlife, which I don't have installed.

Load order:

Spoiler

Masters for: Save 8 - Drew - Chorrol, Level 1, Playing Time 01.06.59.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  You Are Here.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.2.1]03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.0]05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]06  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]07  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp09  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0A  Better Cities .esp0B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.2]0C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.2.1]0D  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]0E  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]0F  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.2]10  WindowLightingSystem.esp11  AmbientDungeons.esp  [Version 1.3]12  Living Economy.esp13  Living Economy - Items.esp14  Cutthroat Merchants.esp15  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.42]16  Streamline 3.1.esp17  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.5.1]18  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]19  CapesandCloaks.esp1A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]1B  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]1C  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]1D  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33]1E  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]1F  Knights.esp20  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]21  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]22  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]23  xulTheHeath.esp24  XulEntiusGorge.esp25  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]26  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]27  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]28  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]29  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2A  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]2B  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]2C  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]2D  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]2E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]2F  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]30  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]31  xulPantherRiver.esp32  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]33  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]34  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]35  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]36  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]37  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]38  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]39  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]3A  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp3B  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]3C  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]3D  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]3E  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]3F  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp40  OOO-Level_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]41  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp42  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp43  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.0]44  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]45  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]46  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.7.0]47  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.7.0]48  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]49  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.0]4A  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]4B  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.0]4C  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.9.0]4D  No More Annoying Comments.esp4E  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp4F  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.2]50  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thanks.

I played all these and never ran into that problem. Is this only happening in one location like a city? Or everywhere in the world? Narrow down the location and find what is altering that. Only time I had anything like this was with City Defenses. DO you have that option turned on in Better Cities?

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:47 pm

I played all these and never ran into that problem. Is this only happening in one location like a city? Or everywhere in the world? Narrow down the location and find what is altering that. Only time I had anything like this was with City Defenses. DO you have that option turned on in Better Cities?

Hm.. Now that you mention it it does only seem to be happening in Chorrol. I didn't have City Defenses activated but I just activated it and it doesn't seem to fix the problem.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:06 am

Hm.. Now that you mention it it does only seem to be happening in Chorrol. I didn't have City Defenses activated but I just activated it and it doesn't seem to fix the problem.

OK, it may be time to post this question in the BC thread then if inside the city walls. If outside it could be bringing the UL patch into play. And then is it all over the city or in one spot? The sound of people falling is what reminded me of City Defences as they would fall off the walls.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:06 am

OK, it may be time to post this question in the BC thread then if inside the city walls. If outside it could be bringing the UL patch into play. And then is it all over the city or in one spot? The sound of people falling is what reminded me of City Defences as they would fall off the walls.

I'm playing right now and at the moment I am noticing it occurring near the south gate, at the building where the Ranger's Guild is, at Northern Goods and Trade, and at the Oak and Crosier. So that's all in the same general area. Also, I am using the Open Cities feature. Could that have anything to do with it?

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:52 pm

I'm playing right now and at the moment I am noticing it occurring near the south gate, at the building where the Ranger's Guild is, at Northern Goods and Trade, and at the Oak and Crosier. So that's all in the same general area. Also, I am using the Open Cities feature. Could that have anything to do with it?

Sounds logical. Switch to closed in the BC options and see. You may be onto something. Check the readme to see where you need to be when doing that (maybe not inside that city)